Joe Louis vs modern heavyweights

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  1. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    That’s an entirely different argument.

    Also, I’m extremely busy with college atm, so I’ll respond to you and @Pedro_El_Chef whenever I have time.
     
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  2. HomicideHank

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    Louis would beat them all in one night.
     
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  3. Pedro_El_Chef

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    Take your time
     
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  4. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    Cheers mate.

    Consider yourselves lucky, I’ve deemed you worthy of a reply. :lol:
     
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  5. Pedro_El_Chef

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    You're telling me, I considered you worthy to spend several hours making a compilation so we'll call it even :biggrin:
     
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  6. JohnThomas1

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    There wouldn't be a top 10, they'd just be his sparring partners or his heavybag.
     
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  7. White Bomber

    White Bomber Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes
     
  8. Boxing_Fan101

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    Who has Wilder beat that convinces you of this
     
  9. sauhund II

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    The stone old fat Chicom beat 16 fight or so Brit Hype job Joyce , lost to another total Dud from the Balkans , lost to another total Nobody and was out hustled by feather fisted paint Dry parker.

    The Chicom is the definition of a Hype job, for all the talk of him being the hardest puncher that has ever lived and Wilder is labeled "Glass Chinned" yet the Ghost of Wilder was stopped on his feet.

    The tame Samoan fought a completly shot Wilder who cannot let his hands go anymore, ANYONE with any Boxing knowledge can see that.

    Prime vs Prime Wilder lays out Zang and Parker.................and the Chicom goes down highlite face down.
     
  10. Boxing_Fan101

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    It’s got nothing to do with letting his hands go Parker never stayed in position long enough or kept pushing him back.

    Wilder in his so called prime was getting outboxed by no hopers like Duhapas or whatever his name was and an ancient Ortiz if Ortiz was 3-4 years younger he would have ended the hype job
     
  11. swagdelfadeel

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    Parker himself admitted Wilder wasn’t at his best (though he attributed it to rust rather than a decline). He was also 38 years old and coming off two brutal beatings and KO losses.
     
  12. swagdelfadeel

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    For some idiotic reason, the site has taken away the ability to edit comments, so I can’t expand on my post, but just so I have this clear, Ortiz was ancient at 38 years old while Wilder is still in his prime at that same age?
     
  13. Boxing_Fan101

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    Ortiz claims he was 38 but that’s debatable either way even past his prime Ortiz nearly beat Wilder

    Wilder has been exposed and the way to beat him is clear hence why he hasn’t won a fight in years also Zhang is even older and still sent him into orbit
     
  14. HistoryZero26

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    The 10-9 system would be a real disadvantage and he wouldn't do quite as well. But he'd still be favored over everyone except maybe Wlad Klitschko.

    Louis's chin was weak in terms of staying on his feet it was strong in terms of getting knocked out. So do the more powerful hitters change this? One thing is today the best giants do not tend to hit awfully hard at least not for someone that big. After Wlad, Wilder and Zhang AJs the only 6 ft 6+ champs we've had with power and he couldn't knock down Usyk or Parker. We might be overrating him due to his last 2 fights. HWs are bigger now but how many of them have the power and ability to make it matter.

    Part of why Usyk seems smaller than really he is hes purely a point fighter who isn't a real threat to put someone over 200 pounds to sleep. But Louis had real power. While most of his opponents were sub 200 his few fights with "superheavyweights" prove that guys 250+ could feel it. In his 5 matches with Buddy Baer, Abe Simon and Carnera Louis had 16 knockdowns and took 1. Louis weighed between 196 and 206 in these fights and could still put on more.

    Louis after the Mauriello fight would struggle unless he took a step down in competition. Wilder or Zhang beats that Louis almost for sure. 35-42 Louis is the real monster.
     
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