Canelo is fighting prime undefeated opponents, something Mayweather was afraid to do

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  1. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing Aficionado Full Member

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    Canelo Alvarez is taking a lot of unjustified criticism. He's taking on prime undefeated opponents, often men who are larger than himself, like Berlanga (22-0) last night. Before that, Canelo fought Munguia (43-0), Bivol (19-0), Saunders (30-0), L Smith (23-0), Plant (21-0) and the bigger C Smith (27-0).

    Floyd Mayweather always avoided prime undefeated opponents (Williams, Cotto, De La Hoya). He waited until after they had been KOed (Cotto, Pacquiao, De La Hoya) before he dared enter the ring with them. He also fought smaller men (Marquez and Hatton, both of whom had to move up in weight), and a pre-prime youth (Alvarez).

    Canelo takes abuse for not fighting the bigger man Benavidez, but let's not forget the so-called "Best Ever" avoided Trinidad, Wright, Margarito, Williams, and Forrest.
     
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  2. Smoochie

    Smoochie Combat sports fanatic Full Member

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    very, very bad bait op
     
  3. anthoto1

    anthoto1 Active Member Full Member

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    And yet, Floyd is the far superior boxer who didn't relied on gift decisions.
     
  4. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd has somehow garnered a TON of support from casual fans. Floyd was an ATG but he had even greatee matchmaking. Floyd somehow missed:

    Prime DLH
    Prime Mosley
    Prime Cotto
    Prime 2009 Manny
    Prime Tim Bradley
    Prime Paul Williams
    Prime Margarito

    Instead, Floyd fought:
    Ghost Guerrero
    Andre Berto
    Marcos Maidana (twice)
    Victor Ortiz
    Carlos Baldomir
    Old Sharmba Mitchell

    Floyd's resume is unremarkable. Everyone was coincidentally too old and coming off losses or, in case of Canelo, too young and not yet seasoned
     
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  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    He refused to fight Benavidez and deserves criticism for that
     
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  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maidana and ODLH fights were not gifts they were competitive fights that Mayweather clearly won in the eyes of most fans.

    The only controversial decision Mayweather had was Castillo 1 who he beat clearly in the rematch.

    Canelo has had some of the most consistently bad scorecards in the modern era.
     
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  7. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    He's fought much more talented and accomplished fighter than Benavidez.
     
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    Floyd could have had Golovkin and swerved hard off that road. Despite some early hiccups, Canelo fought Golovkin 3 times. I think OP is making some good points.
     
  9. BCS8

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    Have to agree there.

    He did take the hard fights though in addition to the easy touches.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    I assume that's not aimed as it doesn't relate to the post you quoted
     
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  11. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t care enough about Floyd to defend him, but moaning about other fighters receiving gift decisions while trying to make a pro-Canelo thread is hilarious
     
  12. Sks476

    Sks476 Active Member Full Member

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    Canelo didn't fight Sergio Martinez which would have been huge. Lots of excuses to avoid this fight.
     
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  13. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    So?

    That doesn't mean he is entitled to duck a serious challenger
     
  14. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't 36 year old Mayweather fight Canelo?
     
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  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Your not wrong