Benavidez vs Canelo?

Benavidez outworks him. It would be pretty one sided at times too

 

In any case, the fight's gotta happen. Or maybe do Benavidez-Morrell and winner gets Canelo in '25. Maybe that'll help build up the purse. And let the Riyadh Season folks make it happen. Canelo seems to be holding out for the $$$, and they've been able to make all the other fights happen. Screw Vegas.

 

I think you misunderstand what I am saying. I'm not talking about general fatigue. Boxing is a stamina sport. Fighters are going to fatigue. I am saying he shows visible fatigue and he loses rounds because of it. In both GGG fights he fatigued. He started out strong the first 3 rounds in the first fight and then arguably lost 6 straight and then finished strong in the last 3. In the second fight he gassed after 8 rounds. GGG arguably swept the rest of the fight. Against Jacobs he won like the first 5 rounds and then gassed and Jacobs arguably won the next 5 then Canelo had to finish out the last two strong. He got tired against Trout which made the fight closer. He got tired against Floyd. He got tired against Bivol. All of these fights he was pushed. Canelo doesn't throw a lot for a reason. He adjusted his style to compensate for his lack of stamina.

Crawford example isn't even applicable here because that isn't something Crawford has consistently shown. Canelo has consistently shown fatigue when pushed in fights. If you don't see it then you just don't see it. No biggie. It's as clear as a sunny day for me though. When he fought Bivol I knew he would gas because Bivol was highly active and was going to make Canelo work. He wasn't going to be like some of Canelo's opponents where they get hit and are hesitant to engage because they fear what's coming back. That's how Canelo controls his fights and manages his stamina. When he fights opponents who fear what is coming back.

 

You might fancy seeing it, but I wouldnt cross the street.to pay 2c to watch

 

Yeah would need 100% more handwraps before you'd raise an eyebrow. We get it.

 

You make a great point about his power that makes his opponents gun shy. We saw that with Berlanga who only decided to get brave when Canelo was tiring down the stretch, we saw it with Charlo who wanted no part of it and ran like a coward all night, we even saw it with Munguia who came to win and started well but became a bit gun shy after Canelo dropped him. The likes of GGG and Bivol were obviously not intimidated and brought the fight to him.

 

I think this is best case scenario for David. But what about him makes you think he can fight like Bivol lol? He's a different fighter with different tendencies. It's easy for us to say if this guy fights like blank he can become champion, but it's exponentially harder in practice to become someone else in the ring. I do think David's output is his pathway to victory but it's contingent on 2 things a) not leaving so many openings to be countered as he's done previously and b)will he hold up under Canelo return fire as well as Berlanga did? The biggest effect Canelo has on his opponents is the one always overlooked in criticism of his fights. His return fire lowers the output and changes the strategy of many ot his opponents. And as far as Benavudez goes, we have to keep in mind his 2 signature wins were against Plant, and guy with average power at best but below average power for the elite. And Andrade, a guy who's best work was 2 whole divisions below 168 and was literally cashing out. His last fight agaisnt a guy in his size bracket made him look surprisingly mortal.....

 

Ehh I'd say he impacted Gennady in the aspect of him being afraid to commit to throwing to the body when it had been a staple of his career up to that point. Guys realize in the early going they have to limit his counter opportunities.

 

Yes that is a fair point as well Canelo was able to stop GGG's devastating body attack however I believe GGG hurt Canelo more throughout both fights than Canelo hurt him.

 

I don't think he did. I think they both got buzzed at some point but have great beards and just played it off. In all fairness Alvarez didn't commit to body as much as normal for his fights either, just more than Golovkin did. Both posses pretty scary uppercuts lol.

 

I think it was the 10th or 11th round in the second fight where I thought that GGG rocked Canelo with a right hand and I think that some of GGG's power shots made Canelo stay on the back foot in the first fight.

 

Wishful thinking

 

Turki isnt going to bend the knee to Canelo

It would set a very dangerous precedent where boxers think they have all the power where in fact they don't

Turki has already frozen out Tim Tszyu because of it

 

I actually have no issue with Canelo just fighting whoever he wants (he have earned the right to do so) as long as he stops claiming he’s the best. If you’re the best you clean out and take an all contenders and not ducking and avoiding the clear number one contender that everyone wants him to fight.

Berlanga is not the best in his division, Munguia is not the best, Charlo never even fought in his weight class before and who the **** is Ryder???

If you claim you’re the best, fight the best.