Mendoza Vs Mcvey Lore

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  1. Arcticbubby

    Arcticbubby New Member Full Member

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    I’m a newcomer here but I’ve been reading a ton of threads about the late 1800s/ early 1900s HW history and I keep seeing these 2 guys go at each other resulting in an eventual Mendoza ban. Can anyone explain why they hate each other? It’s hilarious and sad at the same time.
     
  2. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    The lore is as extensive as One Piece, I think it largely stems from the Jeffries-Johnson debate in which both sides are adamantly in favour of one side. Mendoza is also kind of a jackass who appears to be slightly impaired cognitively, though I do agree with him sometimes.
     
  3. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 MONZON VS HAGLER 2025 banned Full Member

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    I’ll send summons for the great elder it’s been going on forever, back when I was a teen scrolling in 2014-2016 it seemed like an old animosity even then. @janitor oh wise one may you recite the lore to us young bloods?
     
  4. Journeyman92

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    To be fair they’re both a little bit of a jackass, yes I know coming from the resident moody, stupid and otherwise full time prikk but still.
     
  5. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Yeah but Mendoza is actually r3tarded, I genuinely don't think he's capable of processing information that proves him wrong
     
  6. Arcticbubby

    Arcticbubby New Member Full Member

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    Id have to agree here Mendoza seems like a total delusional idiot most of the time. Does he ever try to comeback as an alt?
     
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  7. Journeyman92

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    I’ll give credit to Mendoza on one thing he leans more into the credibility of film than newspaper reports from what I noticed. M was wrong so often even when he had a point it got swept aside as him being a fool, I think he was some kind of autistic? I messaged him once saying WB and he gave a super villain speech about being more powerful now or something - total character or an awesome troll.
     
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  8. janitor

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    Let's say it was a clash of personalities.

    Mendoza was for the most part very polite, but he was a full on propagandist.

    If you produced a devastating rebuttal to something that he said, then he would repeat it a month later when he thought that everybody had forgotten.

    McVea was a cantankerous old curmudgeon, and I had a few spats with him.

    If you presented him with a sound rebuttal, then he would back down on that issue.

    The main point of contention, was that Mendoza idolized Jim Jeffries, and despised Jack Johnson.

    McVea respected Jack Johnson, and was a strong critic of Jim Jeffries.
     
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  9. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I think he is very likely neuro-divergent to an extreme degree

    However, I agree that the times he's actually right are overlooked due to his antics. Ironically, I agree with him on Jeffries more than I do McVey, but not to his level. The Mendoza version of Jeffries is basically the final boss of heavyweights.
     
  10. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I saw this old thread from like 2010-11 where McVey said he landed in Mendoza's state and called him for a scrap, and I think Mendoza also visited England at some point.
     
  11. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    He and McVey still argue on the Boxing Scene forum, Dr. Z is Mendoza's alias if I'm not mistaken
     
  12. janitor

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    Correct, he was Dr Z here before his first ban.
     
  13. janitor

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    I am old enough to remember that.

    Both say that the other didn't show up.

    McVea was clearly a lot older than Mendoza, so I did question it on that basis.
     
  14. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Autism vs. Dementia, the final battle \s
     
  15. The Long Count

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    I say bring them back
     
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