Benavidez vs Canelo?

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  1. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Exact same replies everytime without any evidence. "GUYS GUYS TAKE MY WORD FOR IT OVER DOCUMENTATION!!!!RMOFLOMFO

    Been time to put up or shut for you for years man. This is a burden of proof type situation. I told you a long ass time ago to make a thread with all your proof if you really feel he's innocent.
     
  2. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Morrell couldn´t even beat Kalajdzic´s ass. At no point did he prove himself to be a class above.
     
  3. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly! The commission proceedings are available online for anyone who wants to read them and they tell the story. His supsension... tells the story as well as his immediate punishment fights following. And yes he never stopped another man after being found out, but was on a KO streak before Team Mosley caught him red handed.
     
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  4. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    C'mon man. There's not much difference between fatigue and stamina and how you are explaining it doesn't change what I stated already. You saying that he lost multiple rounds in a row vs all the names you mentioned, well, none of that is factual as if you look at the scorecards, not one of the judges from any of those fights have it scored that way. Even myself who believe that he lost the first fight for sure and maybe even the second fight vs GGG, I didn't have him losing because of fatigue/stamina.....maybe it's because his approach isn't backing his opponent up. He has to weaken the opponent. Bivol, Jacobs, GGG, Trout, etc..... Those are solid opponents. None have ever been pushed around in the ring. You claim he got tired vs Floyd.......WHEN.....he got whipped by Floyd, it wasn't him being tired.

    "Canelo doesn't throw a lot for a reason".......yea, because this isn't Rock'em Sock'em.....he's never got out there and threw a whole bunch of punches for the sake of throwing them. He's calculated, especially after the Floyd loss. Even when Canelo has an opponent hurt, he's not just throwing a lot of punches. He's throwing calculated punches.

    Your assessment of who Canelo is in the ring is flawed. Unless you can give a specific example of when Canelo was actually too tired to compete, then I have a hard time understanding how you are coming up with the logic you are pushing. NOBODY is going to have stamina issues and win the last 2 rounds vs Danny Jacobs. Especially if they lost the previous 5 rounds as you stated.
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    So, months ago Benavidez manager/trainer/whomever claimed they were going to ask to remain as Canelo´s mandatory. The WBC said they had to choose between 168 or 175 as Benavidez now held the interim belt at both weights.
    But then they reportedly asked for a two week extension of the decision.
    So wtf is going on now? It´s been at least a month now.

    And besides that, why won´t Benavidez petition for the mandatory to be enforced or for a purse bid? I don´t get it.
     
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  6. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Benavidez has nothing for Canelo. Zero footwork on top of that. Not a fan of either. I'd pick Canelo if they do ever fight.
     
  7. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    We will see if he fights him
     
  8. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I said that Canelo (somewhat) deserves to fight whoever he wants because he have such a big fan base, he can sell out any arena by himself.

    But, unless he fights the best in his division he’s not the best, one of the best but not the best.

    The Crawford fight is stupid and just an “event”, not a real championship fight (if it happens).

    I did go to last weekends fight, it was great and a lot of fun but we already knew who was going to win.
     
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  9. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You show me proof , & not the ridiculous CSAC version but the independent lab's findings & they find him guilty Id have been on him worse than you idiots & rightly so. But even the CSAC The State Commission couldn't prove he was guilty. All they could do, on lawyers advice was, issue that worthless statement that more or less said We believe hes guilty but have no proof so we'll take away his license to earn a living . if we say he's guilty he must be guilty. the NSAC Mosely, & anyone else involved are the ones should be in jail
    What they did to a great fighter was CRIMINAL!! NOW get lost & go worship the little cheat Mayweather Just Go Away youre just proving how gullible you are
     
  10. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is why we must see it!!
    & why we likely won’t …
    With out a rehydration clause?:deal:
     
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  11. JusABoxinFan

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    No.....you didn't say "somewhat"......You said he simply said he has "EARNED THE RIGHT TO DO SO"..........

    I've experienced enough bdays to understand that when a person openly back pedals out of a comment they just made then they really don't believe what they are saying 100% so I won't continue to push the pedal on the discussion. Fact is, Canelo definitely has deserved the right to choose who he shares the ring with whether we like it or not. He has enough on his resume to not be effected in the support department. Similar to Floyd doing exhibitions vs Muay Thai teenagers 30lbs lighter than him.

    As far as the Crawford, I'm not campaigning for it to happen. If it does, I'll pay attention as a boxing fan. But I'm fine if they walk away and never share the ring. Honestly......I would love to see Crawford unify the 154lb division or at least attempt. Canelo, I want him to see Benavidez or maybe the winner of Bivol/Beterbiev. Just for Fan-Selfish reasons.
     
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  12. alakran

    alakran Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ask them who Benavidez has fought to be a threat. I do think he should fight him but at this point he might not just to prove he does what he wants.
     
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  13. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    We'll just have to agree to disagree. If you don't see it that's okay.
     
  14. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Um the burden of proof is to prove he wasn't guilty for the reasons his license was suspended for, not for us to re-prove what was already determined. They made a decision and handed down a punishment that you have absolutely zero proof to the contrary. Like I've been saying put up or shut up otherwise you just sound like a rabid groupie that can't accept the truth. It's amazing to me that a man supposedly knows the entire story and can't prove his "friend's" innocence. You're a terrible spokesman for him, you should study some hearn or ellerbe lol.
     
  15. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    This has been a weird background development because I'm not sure if it means Canelos team has told them we're doing the fight just be patient or if the commission is forcing his hand behind the scenes. Or maybe the 3rd option of team Benavidez talking the talk but still risk assessing from fight to fight in their own circle.
     
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