Tunney vs. Liston

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    These two have certainly been popular on here on the last few months, who wins over 15?
     
  2. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Idk what Tunney has ever done but Liston easily destroys. Wouldn't even call it a fight, more like a slaughter. Extremely easy, probably too easy. Another win for Liston.
     
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  3. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Intriguing fight. Probably the type of matching Tunney would get the better of in a five & possibly even three-fight series. Higher ring IQ & more adaptable.

    Certainly very plausible he’s unable to deal with Liston’s reach & power at the first time of asking though. I would cautiously pick Liston.
     
  4. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very good fight. Listons got the measurables but that did him no good against Ali. Tunney beat Dempsey but Dempsey didn't have the 85 reach and Dempsey caught him once. Tunney is really the limit of what a sub 200 without HW power can do IMO. Liston is a human pocket battleship. Theres nothing predictable about this matchup.
     
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  5. newurban99

    newurban99 Active Member Full Member

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    I have always thought that Tunney was one of the few 20th century heavyweight champs who stood a chance against Liston. He had the technique, ring intelligence, toughness, footwork, punching accuracy and endurance to take Sonny on. If Liston took him lightly he'd have a surprise waiting. I think the world of Gene Tunney as a fighter. I give him a pass on charges of racism. It was a different world back then.
     
  6. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    Gene is way too fast, way too smart and hits hard enough to damage anyone over 15 rounds.
    Does a runner during the first third of the fight and then starts pouring in more and more as the fight goes on. Stops Sonny on cuts, or knocks him out in between the 11th and the 15th while being way ahead on points.
     
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  7. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He wasn't as fast as or hit as hard as Patterson.

    Sonny KO3
     
  8. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    On the hitting part, neither did Ali.
    He was faster than Sonny and that's all he'd need to be to stay away from him until he wore him down. The guy who can't finish Whitehurst in two tries, Machen and Marshall twice in three tries isn't taking Gene in three, five, or ten. There's a higher statistical chance Gene takes him out in the first five btw.
     
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  9. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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  10. nyterpfan

    nyterpfan Active Member Full Member

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    Sonny might have trouble with Tunney for awhile-but I think once he landed a big shot it would be the beginning of the end. Liston KO in 8-9 rounds.
     
  11. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    "They're always telling me how fast this guy is or that guy. They said Folley was too fast, too cute, for me. They said the same thing about Patterson. It seems like I'm always just a little faster than the other guy." Sonny Liston

    Remind me again of the even decent heavyweights that Tunney beat. And no, I don't include a disinterested, stale Dempsey to be decent.
     
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  12. Pedro_El_Chef

    Pedro_El_Chef Active Member Full Member

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    So static Folley and come-forward Floyd stand in for the most fleet footed heavyweight not named Ali...
    In the parallel universe where Liston holds a ko win over quick or defensively adept boxers in the class of Tunney, I will defend the Dempsey wins. In this one though, Liston hasn't knocked out Whitehurst in two tries, Machen, Marshall only once in three efforts and got blown out twice by the closest thing to Tunney.
     
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  13. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Tunney by 15th round decision in very boring fight.

    Liston would be angry while Tunney would dance but would not fight.

    It would be similar to Liston against Machen, but with Tunney a winner.

    I like Liston style over Tunneys, but Tunney style would do the job right enough to win.
     
  14. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah Tunney wouldn't be as intimidated as Patterson and might be able to hold him off for a bit but he wouldn't hold him off for long.
     
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  15. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If we’re throwing out the Dempsey of the second fight (whom Tunney routed easily) as not even qualifying for a decent win, then we’re gonna have a very thin résumé for Liston too.
     
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