Sonny Liston's shoulder injury.

You have said that Johansen's win over Patterson is better because it was a prolonged beating. Now you are saying it's better because it was with one punch. Which is it?

Johansen stopping Floyd in 3 is a prolonged beating, but Satterfield stopping Williams in 3 isn't a prolonged beating?

Again, explain to me how being lighter makes a heavyweight a better fighter. You keep saying it but you still haven't told me how or why.

 

It was long beating and ended with one punch, Liston couldn't Ko Patterson with just one punch and finish him cold.

Liston stopped Williams also in 3rd, but Satterfield is 30 pounds smaller man stoll knocked Williams with one punch.

It's harder for 30 pounds to KO someone bigger than him.
Satterfield was 30 lbs lighter than Liston, it was harder for him to beat Williams yet he did easier than Liston and KOed with one punch.

 

But you just said that neither could Johansen. He had to give him a prolonged beating before knocking him out.

So they both gave Williams an equally prolonged beating before knocking him out? You said Satterfield's KO was better, but now it's equal?

So being a lighter heavyweight makes Satterfield better while at the same time giving him challenges Liston doesn't have? How is he better if he has to deal with the weight disadvantage? You said Satterfield is better but it's harder for him to ko heavyweights than it is for Liston, you just told me that. Wouldn't that then make Liston better? He doesn't need to deal with the weight problems.

 

He did not, he knocked him with KO.

It was better than Liston because it really was considering that Satterfield was smaller than Liston and knocked Williams with one punch.

Yes it is, being lighter means it is harder because there are weight classes for reason.
Also having disadvantage is proving Satterfield did better also knocking out Williams with one punch is achievement Liston could not repeat in both fights.

 

"There are weight classes for a reason" doesn't help you prove that Satterfield was a better heavyweight than Sonny Liston. You just prove that he has disadvantages that Liston doesn't have. P4P means jack **** when the heavyweight champion can literally cave in the skulls of the lighter men who surpass him in p4p rankings.

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Satterfield was not better hw than Liston but his win against Williams was a lot more impressive than Liston beating Williams.

 

You dont understand. Ingo gets the credit for giving Patterson a longer beating, while also getting the credit for beating Patterson with a quick one punch KO.
It's an advanced concept, it's called the Knockout Entanglement, where a fighter is in a state of unconsciousness while also being lucid and struggling against an opponent who is giving him a beating. The lolcow gave us some zingers today.

 

Highly recommend you follow the reply chain, he set himself up for this one without a second thought

 

Get a clue.

Liston is the ONLY man to have put Patterson down for the 10 count = KO, - and Sonny did it TWICE.

The ref stopped the first Patterson - Ingo fight - Floyd was back on his feet within about 4-5 seconds of the last KD.

Ingo was also doing a lot of pushing, shoving and hitting off the back of the head also to score several of the KDs - but he couldn’t keep Floyd down.

Liston’s victory was comprehensive, squeaky clean with minimal punches required to do the job on BOTH occasions.

Though happy to promote Sonny, Ingo wouldn’t dare step into the ring with Liston - as was the case for several other contenders of the era - including Henry Cooper.

 

Ingo was the only man to KO cold Patterson with single punch also the first man who KOed Patterson was Ingo.

Not true, not any pushing was involved.
Again Ingo did KO Floyd with single punch and almost killed him.

Funny that Ingo was afraid of Liston if Ingo knocked someone in the first round, the man who went 12 rounds with Liston without a sweat.

 

I wonder if BF has a cat named Shrodinger that he keeps in a box?

I must say, conversing with BF over the internet could be described as Spooky Action At A Distance.

 

Yes, Ingo was afraid of a Liston.

Ingo also wanted no part of Machen in a rematch - so he broke the contract clause that required him to fight Eddie again.

Ingo didn’t KO Patterson cold.

That makes you a LIAR…yet again.

THIS is being knocked out cold (see below).

Did you spot the difference?

My wordy lawdy you’re out to lunch.

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You don't even have to disprove the notion that Ingo did it with one punch, or that he put Patterson out cold. He already owned himself: