Anthony Oluwafemi Olaseni Joshua vs. Daniel Raphael Dubois & Anthony Cacace vs. Josh Warrington RBR.

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  1. The Clan

    The Clan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    sorry I’m a Joshua fan but he’s been outfought tonight.
    I could forgive him the shock loss to Ruiz but he’s shown the same weakness tonight and made the same mistake in chasing the stoppage after landing one big shot. He was reckless in doing so against Ruiz but stupid to do it tonight against Dubois, he hasn’t learned the lesson.
    Thanks for the memories AJ
    Time to retire
     
  2. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    It is granite, but Usyk also has the best defence and sees the punches coming so he can roll with them.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Haven't picked against him in quite some time. I picked him over Wallin, Franklin, Pulev and Helenius, I knocked that nonsense off after Usyk beat him twice.
     
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  4. Komaster

    Komaster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Aj was overawed so I guess I get to say I picked a DDD KO, kinda, late.

    DDD was getting good work in, AJ had Helenius and Franklin for God's sake.

    Aj peaked at Usyk. He looked stiff and anxious walking out so there was only going to be one victor.

    AJ couldn't deal with a solid jab from a big man, so there's the blue print if you even need one at this point. Dubois' left hook did look great. DDD needed to put it on him tonight, pressure, combination punching and he did exactly that.

    AJ needs some defensive work. That was pretty bad ...in combination with a egg shell chin that's leaking yoke.

    I think Parker might beat him and Zhang, Bakole is a nightmare match up.

    The rematch will be interesting if AJ comes out swinging like a madman.

    I'm glad he kept his cool...what a weird thjng to say , almost non sensical. He's got ego and security issues and doesn't get he's no longer flavour of the month
     
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  5. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    I can dig that.

    Honestly, I think the top guys are pretty good, but it’s everyone else that looks like things have went downhill.. with the heavyweights, I feel like Usyk and Fury could hang in any era though.

    It’s wild when I watch fighters from past eras, especially between say the 70s and 90s, it seemed like almost everyone could fight, had good skills, rhythm, etc.. I mean you can watch guys who were clearly brought to be opponents, and can see they could fight - not just guys who were top ranked.
     
  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh!

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    They're two stiff glass jawed roiding body builder bums. It's true that AJ got humiliated here in a largely lopsided fashion. But at least when he's on point there's a vague resemblance to a world class boxer. Dubois' 3 fight winning streak is impressive, but he's looked terrible and vulnerable each time all the same. The rematch clause is the usual Hearn BS. But it'd be silly to count AJ out in a rematch.
     
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  7. UmarIFLUmar

    UmarIFLUmar Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dubois won every second of every round except, ironically, 10 seconds before he ended it.

    This isn't a case of one punch switching the momentum. It was a superior boxer mauling an inferior fighter.
     
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  8. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That only makes sense if you fully write Dubios off. He was landing that jab at will before the knockdown and was waiting for opportunities to unload.

    Big respect to AJ for not quitting and showing heart. He landed a great shot before getting knocked out.
     
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  9. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    There's still loads of Dosh in the AJ brand. The Saudis will probably swallow another 2 or 3 losses before bailing out.
     
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  10. Camps

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    Well, some lucky betmaker made a nice pile of $$ tonight....

    And a very somber-looking Eddie....

    What is Eddie now... like, 0-10 vs. Frank....? :)
     
  11. The Professor

    The Professor Socialist Ring Leader Staff Member

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    It was a different time. I don't think they develop fighters the way they did back then. Guys paid their dues and learned their craft, and that's why you can observe the difference in skill level you note.
     
  12. alpo1

    alpo1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ermm no.

    AJ was clearly uncomfortable from Dubois' superior jab right from the start.

    He landed a big shot on Dubois before the KO but Dubois wasn't hurt/rocked. This is boxing, you have to take and give. AJ can give but he can't take (no homo).
     
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  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He wanted the quick way out. He didn't want to slowly take control of the fight.
     
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  14. moydjayweather

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    A new bank holiday in the UK after that
     
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  15. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It also helped that they weren't fighting nobodies for million dollar paydays. A lot of the greats fought like they were hungry cause, well, they were. They also fought a lot more for the same reason, which helped the development as well.
     
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