Daniel Dubois vs prime George Foreman

I predicted this type of thread would pop up in no time

 

next thread: “ send in your welterweight to beat Daniel Dubois “

 

One guy finished off Miller, Hrgovic, and Joshua in the last 12 months.

The other didn't even fight anyone that size in his prime years.

I'll go with the first guy.

 

And he didn’t give up two inches and thirty pounds to them.

 

He brutally stopped 6'5 Wepner (his orbital bone burst from inside out after a punch according the man) and 6'6 O'Halloran in his first 12 months as a professional, and he would have stopped all the lanky types like Larry Middleton, all who could bring in the acceptable amount of lard should they fight in a twelve round era with no regard for strong conditioning. But those wins mean little compared to beating Frazier, Peralta, or Chuvalo both of whom were 5'11 or so.

 

They were either terrible or smaller than Dubois, or both.

 

A rebuilding Foreman under Clancy got himself into one of the most horrific wars against Ron Lyle, a dynamite punching, tough as nails, and as gritty as they get ex-con with more heart than the entirety of Dubois' resume bar Usyk. Guess who got up from inhuman knockdowns to prevail. The very same Lyle got the better of Shavers after six rounds in trenches.

70's Foreman at his best hits just as hard as Dubois, but has better chin, has better timing, more varied bag of tricks, is better drilled, has far better defense, is in an entirely different realm as far as punch selection, ring cutting, clinchwork and control game goes, and earned himself the name in the slugfest, while Dubois was stopped twice by a jab from Joyce and Usyk.

Daniel is lucky Hrgovic is an average puncher, because he was hitting him like a heavy bag. Prime Foreman breaks him.

 

Yes, they were bang average which is exactly the point, though Wepner, O'Halloran, and Middleton are all taller than the 194cm Dubois. Size is a factor, but in an era in which Parker, Ruiz (barely taller than Tyson), Kabayel, and Usyk enjoy solid to immense success, you'd think the superheavyweight argument would begin losing its power.

Ruiz upset Joshua.
Parker took on the tall, terrific punchers in Wilder and Zhang, and remains a top 5 heavyweight at the moment.
Kabayel demolished the big, stiff boogeyman Makhmudov, and is a lethal threat to anybody in the division with his combinations, work rate, and chin.
Usyk stopped Dubois, beat Joshua twice, and dropped and nearly stopped the perfect superheavyweight Fury, who used to be unbeatable h2h (except hittable, far more chinny than the likes of Chuvalo, McCall, Mercer, Tua, or Tyson.)
Hunter drowned Bakole.
The biggest of them are at best 1cm taller than Foreman. Some are smaller. What's certain is Foreman showed that he can bang and take punches with the most dangerous of them.

Dubois was getting stalked around the ring by Usyk, who lit him up in the cold rains of Wroclaw. He had a fiasco against Lerena, and Hrgovic was finding him at will like the stiff bodybuilder that he is. Determined, hard-hitting, but still. Foreman does very bad things to the man, though I reckon in what could be possibly an entertaining scrap depending on the stage of George's career. He is too good, too all around powerful, and too ready to fight in trenches. Unlike the plastic gangster Joshua, Foreman had grit from the Bloody Fifth.

 

You aren't making any sense here.

 

No ones seen the Lyle fight? DDD is exactly the type of guy you steer Foreman away from.

 

Ron Lyle was stiff, old and worse than probably? everyone in this list lol and that was the fight of GF’s life.

 

Might as well be the 6th guy for Foreman's exhibition, would not be a serious contender for an actual fight against prime Foreman