AJ showed signs of age-related decline

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  1. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Many thought Chisora lost to Washington, he's clearly declined despite the Joyce fight. One would think a younger Pulev would kayo guys like Forrest and the Ukranian. He stopped guys like that at his best.
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No offence but I'll tell you what's embarrassing is having to listen to all you rose-tinted goggle wearing boxing paleontologists crying your big baba tears all over the general forum nonstop in order to discredit modern fighters and greats like Usyk who literally embodies everything right and great about the sport and who has achieved everything he has the hard way.

    He was already considerably past his prime before before he won a title at HW for goodness sake and he's very noticeably much slower, less fluid with much slower reflexes and reaction times but you all ignore this but hand out free passes for being past prime and their below par performances, struggles and losses to your heroes of yesteryear



    Baba tears and nostalgia >>> Classic forum
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I never sad he hasn't declined but fact is he was robbed in the first J-Park fight and he dis beat the #8 ranked Big Joe Joyce in his last fight. He's still a good fighter

    He clearly beat Washington

    He nearly did KO Forrest and no way he KO's The Hulk that guy is as tough as poop. Even in his stoppage loss to Bakole he proved that
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He didn't have two good eyes. He had one good eye

    You keep proving my point for me. Thanks

    Lewis ran from a rematch like a female dog because he knew he got lucky in the first fight. Every fan on the planet was desperate to see the rematch because it was a great fight, ultra competitive, and it was decided on a cut. The only fans who didn't want to see it were Lewis' fan because they knew he would lose it. Lewis was obviously terrified of facing Vitali again because he knew it too. It was a shameless duck point blank period
     
  5. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Once a bodybuilder always a bodybuilder
     
  6. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    He got dropped early in the fight. Remember, this is a guy that trains for one thing in a fight. He never seems to have a plan B. If he gets hurt, or things don't go to plan he looks lost, like he is too busy thinking.
     
  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    The only one who is getting outed here is you getting outed as a Lewisexual and a rabid AJ hater. I don't even like AJ

    I never said you brought Lewis up. I did and I explained why, Lewisexual

    Yes, Lewis had 14 more fights and fought more punchers than AJ. He also got one punch sparked out cold in his prime by Dillian Whyte level guys, neither of whom hit as hard as Dubois. Lewis doesn't get up from that first right hand bomb which dropped AJ and you know I'm right

    Yes, AJ has double the losses because he had the balls to face a slick southpaw twice, and a generational great at that. Lewis never would've in a million years

    AJ didn't even take up boxing until he was like 18, Lewis was 13.
     
  8. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So basically you brought up Lewis as damage control because joshua got his ass beat for the 4th time we already knew this. And your critisims are quite dishonest especially when you make all these ridiculous excuses for aj. He didn't see Rahmans punch coming unlike that crap that Dubois hit aj with in round 1, and he wiped the floor with him in the 2nd bout. When has aj done this ? aj lost to an obese cruiserweight and got dropped 9 times in his career

    Lewis got up just like aj did against Mccall but unfortunately got counted out before protesting, let's sweep that under the rug
     
  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No, so basically I'm making all you big baba tear boxing nostalgists hold your heroes from yesteryear to a standard you're loath to do so and it makes you cry even more big baba tears

    AJ's problems are obviously mental and the fact people like you are even trying to pretend he didn't look like crap the other night from a technical and skills perspective is extremely disingenuous, as said, his skills and technique went out the window after that first KD and he looked like a pale shadow of his former self.

    Lewis' problems were more physical. He got one punch sparked out by a crack addict and a janitor in the midst of his prime. As desperate as you are to memory hole that, you never can. I would rather go 0-1000-3 against bums than suffer a fate like that.
     
  10. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's literally damage control because this thread has nothing to do with Lewis. In actuality every comparison you make between Lewis and aj is a false equivalence, which is why I nor the others buy what your selling.

    Its excuses excuses and more excuses. aj failed at the top, Lewis had what it took to be a top 5 heavyweight of all time. There's nothing in the comparison, ajs career is more equivalent to Floyd Patterson. aj got knocked out wheras Lewis avenged the losses with ease along with the superior record
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It has everything to do with Lewis. We have rabid Lewisexuals/rabid AJ haters holding AJ to a much harsher standard than they do their hero and pretending like the AJ we saw the other night wasn't the worst version we've seen from a skills and technical perspective when it so obviously was. He looked like a rank novice in that regard and, regardless of what people think of him, he has good skills and technique.

    You guys pretending that was the same AJ as we're used to seeing in that regard is a false equivalence

    Did Lewis avenge his loss to Rahman and McCall before rematching them? How is AJ supposed to avenge his loss when they only fought a few days ago? Should he have rematched him Monday morning?
     
  12. djfonti

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    He needs to retire.
    The thing is right now he's got ability. But painful as it may be, ability don't last. And his days are just about over. Now that's a hard motherf'in' fact of life, but that's a fact of life his a** is gonna have to get realistic about. See, this business is filled to the brim with unrealistic motherf'ers. Motherf'ers who thought their ass would age like wine. If you mean it turns to vinegar, it does. If you mean it gets better with age, it don't. Besides, how many fights do you think he's got left in him anyhow? Two? Boxers don't have an Old Timers Day. He came close but he never made it. And if he were gonna make it, he would have made it before now.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is all in your head. Everyone except you are correctly assessing his overall career because he got absolutely annihilated by another underdog. All your doing is exposing yourself as an overzealous Lewis hater by bringing him up when they're careers don't have much in common at all.

    Fact is Lewis wasn't ran over by Rahman he was winning and got caught. He dominated the rematch and stopped in a round sooner. When has aj done this ? Never. Hearn already said no rematch for Dubois. besides Lennox didn't even have Steward as a trainer before Mccall and we know how how good Emmanuel made Wladimir. Outside of Lewis having a couple losses they are nothing alike not even stylistically so bringing him up is a nothing burger
     
  14. AdamT

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    Serge come on man
    One thing is to have usyk as better on in the league of lennox. I personally think lewis is better, but that's a fair debate. Usyk has earned his place at the table, but Joshua?
    Not for me mate

    Off to the Classic I go lol >>>>>>>>
     
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  15. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    No it isn't. Haters don't assess anything correctly

    I'm not a Lewis hater and I've already explained exactly what I'm doing

    They have plenty in common and AJ's career is still being written

    You're making nonstop excuses for Lewis whilst crucifying AJ on a molten cross. Which is exactly my point regarding all you rose-tinted boxing nostalgists :facepalm:

    You view the fighters of previous eras through the lens of rose-tinted goggles and the ones of today through the lens of a microscope

    Anyway, we've never going to agree so let's leave it there