Boxercise Ben

Mate, if you think that AJs last shot was an uppercut then join another sport.
Editing posts has nothing to do with my points.
You posted that vid of delboy, well there's another one with Don Charles from the same interviewer yesterday.
Don talks about how the public and people in boxing just parrot what they hear other people say without actually studying the topic they're talking about.
Well tragedy your one of them people Don is referring to.
He calls them "sheep"

 

The entire boxing world is saying it was an uppercut and that Joshua shouldn't have thrown the uppercut. It isn't just me Lol. You are the only person saying what you are saying. You and possibly Ben Davison.
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Don Charles said it was an uppercut and he shouldn't have thrown it!

 

Mate it's this simple..watch how Don throws his shot and watch how AJ throws his shot.
It's not the same. Look at Don's position on his thumb and look at AJs thumb position when he throws. Maybe he's sticking the knife in on Ben. I don't know but what I do know is that was no uppercut and that Bens advice to counter a step jab with a slip right uppercut is correct.

 

Everything you just said is 100% wrong. You're just completely lying at this point.

 

Lying about what?
That wasn't an uppercut, go and watch the last punch again by AJ.
Anyhow I've made my points, no point engaging anymore on this topic.
Agree to disagree.

 

Go back and edit your posts mate.

 

I edited it cos I'd posted it without the last 3 sentences. I went back and edited them in.
What's your point?

 

I think the argument is it was too late to recover at that point. He had to try and fight his way in because he,d been put over four times and was on the verge of getting stopped etc. I think that should have been the advise going into the second round after he was first hurt what shanes saying. But by the time they we,re going into the 5th i actually agree with ben....he had to roll the dice and try to fight his way back into it otherwise it was pretty much over anyway.

I think the advice actually worked to an extent....then joshua goes on to make two very big technical mistakes that ended up costing him.

 

Slipping the jab and throwing the uppercut would/should take you off the line, the issue is from what I can pick up he was advised to throw the uppercut off his own double jab which is going to walk you onto the short right, which Shane had the inside insight is a shot Daniel can clearly throw. Personally I don't think it was great advice, i;d probably have sided with Shane in terms of try to get behind a stiff jab get to second half of the fight and see where we are, the truth is by that point was AJ capable of listening or carrying that out is a guess.l

 

If he had covered up and held for a few rounds, he may have recovered his senses as he did against Klitschko when he was badly hurt. This is the advice the corner should have been giving AJ as Shane rightly pointed out.

 

It seemed terrible advice to me at the time, he ended up trying to do a handstand on 8 seconds in a last ditch attempt to get on his feet. He got absolutely splattered. 'Going for it' in that situation was only going to end up one way, getting his head badly smashed in. IMO f he was too hurt to hold on for a few rounds in a last ditch attempt to recover enough to get back in the fight then the corner should have retired him on his stool to save him from himself. And no, throwing the towel in at 9.5 seconds does not count as saving your fighter Ben!

 

Haha,
That got me as well.
Throwing the towel in so late??

Did Davidson think that made the slightest bit of difference?

And in previous round (forget which one) he jumped in the ring with water bottle when Joshua still hadn't been cleared to continue after his count.

 

Dont quite agree. Joshua got dubois backing up off that advice for pretty much the first time in the fight. At that point joshua makes two mistake one he overestimates how hurt dubois is....and the second one is due to that first one...he throws from too far out with his hands down because of it. Was a massive miscalculation from joshua.

The we need to roll the dice was pretty much the right advice....he needed to take a gamble at that point or he was going to get stopped regardless.

Depends how you look at it....for me joshua at 35 needed to take the gamble as opposed to throwing in the towel earlier at this point in his career. He had a bit more fight in him which was shown by hurting dubois and getting him backing up. Its from there joshua makes a massive miscalculation. I dont think that was just down to being out of it....it was more because he lacks boxing iq.

You weren,t going to stop dubois coming forward on saturday night without fighting him backwards imo. Too fresh. Too young and too fast for joshua. Staying in the fight advise in that 5th round for me wasnt really good advice bearing in mind how the fight was going....it would have gave him less chance to do what he had to do....which was to turn the fight around and stop dubois from marching forward.

 

You can't throw an uppercut and slip a right hand at the same time. Thats impossible.

 

In the sky sports vid on page 2. Ben says sharp slip uppercut. Where as you've already pointed out, this would take you off the line and outside the lead hand. (If thrown correctly)
That was the other fella Lee wiley saying double jab.