Sonny Liston's shoulder injury.

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  1. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Not only have you failed to watch footage of the Ali vs Liston fight but you
    have not even read my post properly.Of course I acknowledged the pain of a split
    nose.No sane person would deny that.
    However the eyes are far MORE SENSITIVE than just about any part of the body including
    a damaged nose.How on earth are you failing to grasp this ?
     
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  2. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And did he wipe his eyes?

    I do not think so, they used something too to at least make Ali see.
     
  3. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nope eyes are not sensitive than broken bones period, any man would tell you that and no, not anything that makes your eyes itching is close to punch with broken bones or having nose split in a half, period.
     
  4. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Oh why you are spouting this garbage ? Burning eyes would be more sensitive than broken bones.It is not a
    question of degree of pain.The issue is the involutary reaction to burning eyes as opposed to broken bones.
     
  5. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    You dont prove negative claims goober. The disprove the oppositions positive claims. We learned this in 9th grade english.
    yap yap yap
     
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  6. Spreadeagle

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    AAAAGGGGHHHH ! Yes ! YES !!!! Angelo Dundee DID wipe his eyes !!
    It is there on the video supplied by Pedro EI Chef.Why on earth are you denying this ??????
     
  7. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Someone butthurt?
    yap yap yap
     
  8. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It is question what would be more problem for a fighters.
    Fighter with eyes itching is not having problem that much because eyes itching but because he would hit more often and is is in a hurry to heal to eyes while fighter with broken both hands would feel pain every time they punch something.
    If you can compare those two you could se the difference.
     
  9. BoxingFan2002

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    Wipe eyes?
    How could you wipe them when they are itching, they would still do that even if you wipe them?
     
  10. Spreadeagle

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    What on earth are you talking about ?
     
  11. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If someone stabs you and I clean the stab wound and all that, does that mean that it will not still hurt you many days maybe even weeks after?
    Eyes were still itching, he wipes them to regain vision but they were still itching.
     
  12. Spreadeagle

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    Itching ? Itching ?? We're not talking about '' itching '' eyes here.We're talking about a burning sensation.
    Oh yeah right, Ali's face was contorted in agony and he was screaming at Dundee to stop the fight because
    his eyes were '' itchy '' ?
    Oh for crying out loud.........
     
  13. BoxingFan2002

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    Burning sensation?
    Take a brake man, he was not pepper sprayed he was just put some things that would make his eyes itching and not be able to see things.
     
  14. Spreadeagle

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    Look,please try to follow your own posts more carefully.One of the fundemental reasons
    why it is clear that Machen was lying about being blinded was that nobody in Machen's
    corner made any attempt to clean his eyes.Contrast this with Angelo Dundee's furious
    efforts to wipe Ali's eyes clean,which is what you originally denied happening.That is
    the only issue that is relevant.
     
  15. Spreadeagle

    Spreadeagle Active Member Full Member

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    Again,you have clearly not watched footage of the fight.Just watch Ali's reaction to his eye-contimination.