Tokyo Douglas -vs- Marciano…

Douglas caught "lightning in a bottle" for one night in 1990...Marciano was champ from 1952 to 1956 and retired at at 49-0 with 43 KO's. Rocky's is one of the all time great warriors...

 

And that's the Douglas that is matched here with Marciano
Got the names of those 13 boxers you say Marciano retired yet?

 

The argument for Marciano banks on the quality of the Louis, Walcott and Layne wins, for those are the guys with comparable size or power to Douglas (relative to the other guys on Marciano's record).
Louis was 15 lbs lighter than Douglas that night, and maybe worse, he was 202 lbs the previous month for Bivins. His best comeback weight was 207-9 lbs for Brion and Savold. That said, he looked good physically against Rocky. The main issue was his lack of explosiveness, speed and reflexes, the kind of things Douglas would not be lacking. What he did have was size, a fantastic jab, a good left hook, great defense at close and long range, and while his stamina wasn't great it was still good enough to let him outwork Brion, Agramonte and Bivins over the distance.
Layne on the other hand had never been knocked out, held respectable power and had experience being in the ring with Charles, Walcott and Louis while also having outslugged Satterfield.
If Marciano succeed in keeping the fight at close range, the fight would be decided on Douglas either possessing or lacking point blank power. Louis could floor and hurt Agramonte and Valentino with his right, but at close range it was reduced to a pushing blow. If Douglas needs his space and can't back away fast enough then Rocky can find safety in the pocket and outslug Douglas, wearing him down with body shots and uppercuts to the jaw from underneath. Otherwise he gets stopped, Douglas will be the biggest and hardest puncher he will have ever faced at that point.

 

Las Vegas Douglas KO's the wee feller.

 

There’s no maybe about that version of Louis being worse than Tokyo Douglas.

 

Probably Tokyo Douglas.

 

The way he says "maybe worse" there is no ifs buts or maybes about it that was a seriously faded version of Louis. And Douglas against Tyson was absolutely a better H2H fighter than the version of Louis that fought Marciano that's plainly obvious.

I wonder what people's logic is in these match ups sometimes Swag. You have to be delusional to think Marciano beats a motivated Douglas who was 6'3 231 pounds 83 inch reach.

That's an almost 50 pound weight advantage with a 5 inch height advantage and a staggering 17 inch reach advantage!!!

Anyway version of Douglas between 88-90 beats the breaks off Marciano.

 

The "maybe worse" was about the weight discrepancy.

 

Is this some game of telephone? The full sentence is in my post so you can answer directly to what I actually said.

 

I can reply to who I want if I wanted to waste my time debating with someone who thinks a faded version of Louis is comparable with a peak Douglas in Tokyo then I would.

Or another fantasy scenario where Marciano with his 67 inch reach is going to get inside vs a fighter with a 17 inch reach advantage.

 

'The argument for Marciano banks on the quality of the Louis, Walcott and Layne wins, for those are the guys with comparable size or power to Douglas (relative to the other guys on Marciano's record)"
I'm comparing Louis to Douglas because he is the only one in Marciano's record who even comes close to the physicality. I already mentioned the differences in power, reflexes, speed and size. If you are going to fence with strawmen, then I agree, don't bother arguing with me.

 

You said "maybe worse" which means you're suggesting it's debatable it's not.

A peak Douglas is far and away a better H2H fighter than the faded version of Louis who fought Marciano that's plainly obvious.

Not to mention Douglas being considerably bigger than Louis with a signifanctly longer reach, even a faded Louis had no trouble landing his jab on Marciano. Douglas would literally do a paint job on Marciano with his jab.

 

My apologies.