What next for Fury after Usyk stops him?

If he comes in like vs Wilder he will eat a loaf of shots

I think his gameplan was good last time, but he needs to be busier and not goof around and if he hurts usyk again? Then march him down

To be honest he needs to combine the aggressive and defensive styles and adapt to every scenario, as we know usyk can switch it up every time

All trolling aside, I still think Usyk is the favourite,because his stamina is the difference for me. I can see Fury being up in the cards, but Usyk putting his foot on the gas like he usually does

Fury maybe should just gamble and try to catch usyk cold and be more aggressive, similar to how Dubois caught Aj

However, Fury isn't Dubois and usyk certainly isn't Aj. The more I think about this fight I do think it's a hard task for Fury, but not impossible. Those rounds he won did show some glimmer of hope, but I don't think Fury can sustain that for many rounds.

Furys best chance is a knock out and I feel usyk will be seeking one of his own, after the controversy of round 9

If Aj had of smashed Dubois, I think dodgy scorecards could be a problem, but with no mega fight on the horizon, I doubt usyk needs to be too concerned about judging. Though if the fight is anyway closer than last time? They will give it to Fury to set up the trilogy

I do predict it will be fireworks. Fury has already suffered humiliation, so has nothing to lose amd I expect usyk to seek a knock out

I do have a gut feeling Fury can surprise people and win, but the above is my honest assessment. I go 70/30 usyk, but Fury has a chance

For those saying Fury has zero chance, borrow all the money you can, bet the house and let's see the bet slips

I am going to try and not troll about this fight but the haters will bring it out of me again. It's just fun at the end of the day, it doesn't matter

 

I’m talking about the agenda you push regarding Usyk and Fury as equally spent forces. They are not. Fury is a very old 36-year-old. He already has loose tissue; you can clearly see his skin has lost a lot of elasticity, and his neck and eyes are getting wrinkly. Usyk is not even close to that, despite being almost two years older.

But that’s not why Usyk beat him, even though that’s what you imply – that Usyk kept in better shape than Fury. Usyk beat him because he is the far better fighter, and he is great at fighting bigger guys. Fury is a good fighter, while Usyk is an all-time great. This difference in levels would always show in a match between them.

And I don’t even want to know what on Earth you are talking about in the highlighted bit.

 

Fury is way more shopworn. He took a great deal of damage from Wilder

 

Maidana outlanded Floyd. It was an either-way. Brieidis did not outland Usyk.

You are missing a very big point...Usyk did the jump from Cruiser to heavy...the hardest jump in boxing because heavyweight is UNLIMITED. No, I am not saying that Tyson Fury is as good as Oscar De La Hoya...he's not. But he's six inches taller and 40-50 pounds heavier.

That is why Usyk is great.

Attacking the division is silly when the point is it was a very good one AT THAT MOMENT. Usyk, Briedis, Gassiev, Dorticos, Huck, Glowacki, Wlodarczyk, Hunter, Mchunu, Perez...stacked!

 

Name me 15 of his best wins
He cut loads of weight to make cruiser weight that means little

Manny put on a much higher percentage of weight as he moved up

Usyk is a bum next to these guys and the guys you named above are a pack of bums too, as are Aj and Fury

 

@catchwtboxing show me where Maidana outlanded Floyd?

Not what I remember and I checked and can't find that stat? Also boxing is scored in a round by round basis, the best maidana could hope for is a draw

You never see Floyd busted up like usyk always is and against WAY better opponents than the rubbish usyk always fights

Show me the stat please, I'm interested to read it

Many thanks

 

Manny holds the weight class recored at 8, right? So Usyk is a bum because Manny did better? Strange logic my friend.

So Usyk needs to have 15 great wins? Again, pretty arbitrary.

With respect, seems you are losing it a bit. Usyk is going to go down as one of the best to ever do it. Period.

 

He outlanded Mayweather in 7 rounds.

 

Richard really did himself proud vs Ali…bought a much desired pub from the proceeds I believe..…unfortunately it went by the wayside in the ensuing years.

Possessed one of the best lantern jaws of any fighter - but it wasn’t necessarily as unbreakable as it looked.

 

Fury was what he was and is what he is.

The traits you referenced are actually legitimate attributes consistently upheld by ATGs.

They are not givens to be so easily inserted after the fact of a career to hypothetically elevate fighters…..

There are numerous fighters who one might perceive could’ve been so much better given the aforementioned attributes.

A lot of ifs, buts and maybes to build certain fighters into something they actually weren’t or are…….

 

The concept of P4P is artificial in so far as mentally “sizing up” up a lower division fighter whilst having him retain his perceived P4P abilities.

While there are some pros to greater size there are unavoidable cons to carrying greater bulk in terms of the impact on reasonably interpreted P4P abilities.

Some might observe and suggest that a particular Super HW is incredibly fast and moves well “for his size” (eg a relative measure) - which could be interpreted as a P4P plus in so far as defying the average constraints that usually come with greater size.

Certainly, at least in my mind, per the most commonly applied criteria, Usyk was a greater P4P fighter at CW than he has been at HW.

Olek is just one material example that proves you can’t simply size a fighter up and expect him to retain the same level of P4P abilities he displayed at his lower, optimal weight.

The trade off for Usyk moving up in weight is that, while his opposition is that much bigger with all the assumed advantages that come with greater size, they fall somewhat short of the P4P abilities displayed by Usyk’s CW comp.

 

Wow. That is some next level hating.

 

It’s a well-known cop-out used by sports fans, the “what if” narrative. If only athlete X had more discipline and a proper trainer, he would have smoked everyone.

But it’s just hot air. It’s the easiest thing to do—being a lazy talent and not putting in the work, as that would mean you have to take responsibility and risk losing, even though you tried your hardest and still it wasn’t enough. Losing like that, after all the hard work and effort you put in, is the hardest part. But “volatile and erratic talents” can just take the easy way out and not even risk it, leaving their fans to go down the “what if” route.

It’s much easier to mess around and then claim, “I could have become great if only I had this and that.” Sports history is littered with cowardly guys like that who were supposed to be great talents.

 

Retirement or AJ/Dubois winner.

 

Nope 6 rounds each and mayweather had much higher percentage landed

The best he could hope for was draw. Floyd landed cleaner shots throughout