If Bivol wins, his win should not be discredited

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  1. Keldan

    Keldan Member Full Member

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    The fight hasn't even ****ing happened, Christ. Beterbiev is Undefeated, all knockouts. Hasn't come close to losing but if Bivol struggles and wins then Beterbiev is old and injured. What a load of bollocks.
     
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Lmao ok mate
     
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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Beterbiev is four months away from turning 40 and has been plagued with injury and inactivity throughout his career

    He's had 20 fights in his 11 year pro career but 9 of them were in the first two years

    So he's had 11 fights in the last 9 years

    But that being said, even though he is obviously well past his physical prime he's still extremely formidable, the #1 ranked LHW on merit, the unified WBC, IBF, and WBA champ, top 10 P4P on merit, and the only champion in the sport with a KO 100%.

    The knee surgery is a concern as it should be but if he's as good and as sharp as he was in his last fight (which is a big if) he stands at least a 50% chance of winning. But a 33 y/o Beterbiev vs a 33 y/o Bivol would stand a much higher chance IMO

    The winner will be a deserved, bare minimum, top 4 P4P
     
    Serge, Oct 3, 2024
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  4. Smoochie

    Smoochie G.R.E.B G.O.A.T Full Member

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    Here we are :lol:

    Except there was no window of time yet to 'em facing and COVID slowed down boxin
     
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  5. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm happy to discredit the win somewhat since he's facing a 40 year old.
    At the same time Beterbiev loves his hormones, so that evens it out a little.
    I think it's pretty obvious Bivol has been ageing Beterbiev, so he shouldn't be excused for that.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  7. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Aged beterbiev out
    He won't win but I am not giving credit if he does, as he would put a glass eye to sleep

    Regarding his wife, did he also beat her by decision?
     
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  8. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At this very moment, Beterbiev is collectively both ATG unstoppable force and old has-been who should retire.
     
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  9. Shazzar23

    Shazzar23 Demetrius Bivol Full Member

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    Schrödinger's Boxer
     
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  10. SquareUp

    SquareUp New Member Full Member

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    Of course boxing fans will absolutely discredit him.
    "Beterbiev was ancient"
    "He beat a one legged Beterbiev"
    Etc.
     
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  11. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    LOL Wut?
     
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  12. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah if AB shows that he's basically still fighting very well and gives DB a hard time, maybe scores a knockdown, less people will discredit DB
     
    Levook, Oct 4, 2024
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  13. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    lol
     
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  14. Reuben Jones

    Reuben Jones New Member Full Member

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    I have to agree with both of you. Boxing fans are weird. No one hardly gives credit to a fighter for stopping someone in the first round anymore, it's all about the other guy being "exposed", and "never that good". Hard-fought 12 round fights with you declared the winner, seem to get you a lot more respect. It's understandable to an extent, don't get me wrong, but greatness comes in various forms. There are different ways to win. I feel it's equally as impressive to destroy someone, or shut their lights out from the first round, as it is to win a hard-fought decision. Were people like this back in 1988, when a 21-year-old Tyson destroyed a 31-year-old Spinks in Spinks's last fight? I weren't around in them days so I wouldn't know, but I highly doubt it somehow.
     
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  15. lufcrazy

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    Window of time? They've both been title holders in the same division for 7 years lol
     
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