154 > 168 > 160 (current net talent in each division's top 15)

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  1. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Crazy. That's like the direct antithesis of the historical norm.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

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    LIGHT MIDDLEWEIGHT

    BoxRec:

    1. Terence Crawford
    2. Vergil Ortiz Jr.
    3. Israil Madrimov
    4. Sebastian Fundora
    5. Tim Tszyu
    6. Serhii Bohachuk
    7. Bakhram Murtazaliev
    8. Xander Zayas
    9. Jesus Alejandro Ramos Jr.
    10. Brandon Adams
    11. Charles Conwell
    12. Slawa Spomer
    13. Etoundi Michel William
    14. Abbas Baraou
    15. Radzhab Butaev

    Ring Mag:

    1. Terence Crawford
    2. Israil Madrimov
    3. Sebastian Fundora
    4. Vergil Ortiz Jr.
    5. Tim Tszyu
    6. Serhii Bohachuk
    7. Jesus Alejandro Ramos Jr.
    8. Charles Conwell
    9. Brian Mendoza
    10. Bakhram Murtazaliev

    SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT

    BoxRec:

    1. Saúl Álvarez
    2. Jaime Munguía
    3. Christian M'billi
    4. Osleys Iglesias
    5. Diego Pacheco
    6. Caleb Plant
    7. Demetrius Andrade
    8. Kevin Lele Sadjo
    9. Edgar Berlanga
    10. Vladimir Shishkin
    11. Pavel Silyagin
    12. Steven Nelson
    13. Luka Plantic
    14. Zach Parker
    15. Erik Bazinyan
    Ring Mag:
    1. Saúl Álvarez
    2. Jaime Munguía
    3. Christian M'Billi
    4. Osleys Iglesias
    5. Diego Pacheco
    6. Caleb Plant
    7. Vladimir Shishkin
    8. Edgar Berlanga
    9. Erik Bazinyan
    10. Lester Martínez

    MIDDLEWEIGHT

    Boxrec:

    1. Erislandy Lara
    2. Jermall Charlo
    3. Hamzah Sheeraz
    4. Zhanibek Alimkhanuly
    5. Carlos Adames
    6. Meiirim Nursultanov
    7. Patrice Volny
    8. Etinosa Oliha
    9. Shane Mosley Jr.
    10. Austin Williams
    11. Aaron McKenna
    12. Vadim Tukov
    13. Anauel Ngamissengue
    14. Michael Zerafa
    15. Kieron Conway
    Ring Mag:

    1. Zhanibek Alimkhanuly
    2. Hamzah Sheeraz
    3. Carlos Adames
    4. Erislandy Lara
    5. Chris Eubank Jr.
    6. Meiirim Nursultanov
    7. Etinosa Oliha
    8. Kyrone Davis
    9. Troy Isley
    10. Shane Mosley Jr.
     
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  3. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Super welter clears right now, p4p.

    Radzhab Butaev - ranked #15 in the world on BoxRec and not in Ring Mag's ten best - is probably better pound for pound than all but three or four super middles, and greater than or at least equal to maybe the whole lot at MW.
     
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  4. lt. columbo

    lt. columbo New Member Full Member

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    still some good fighters in those lists.
    but i agree 154 is a good division right now. a lot of great matchups in there
     
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  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    MW has the pair of Kazakhs (both pretty poor standard bearers in the footsteps of GGG), Adames, Charlo, and million year old Lara on top, pretty uninspiring top five - and below them a big steaming pile of crap.

    SMW is strong; JMW is elite.
     
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  6. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    154's top 6 is majestic
     
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  7. Ioakeim Tzortzakis

    Ioakeim Tzortzakis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You know what's also crazy ?

    Heavyweight is currently better than Middleweight. Imagine saying that back in the 30's and 40's.
     
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  8. Pepsi Dioxide

    Pepsi Dioxide Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wish they would dump 154 and 168 as divisions
     
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  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Practically blasphemy, yet it's true. :deal:
     
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  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    154 is sort treated like Cruiserweight. Long thought to be considered the red headed step child. A place where fighters go to get called soft for not putting on the 6 pounds and fighting in a real division with the big boys. Not sure if the reputation is deserved, but it's there.
     
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  11. Smoochie

    Smoochie Harry Greb Footage Hunter Full Member

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    Is featherweight better than superwelter rn?
     
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  12. FreddieGibbs

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    Feather is probably a little deeper than super welter but having a top 3 p4p fighter is always nice. Personally I think super welter is the best division right now all things considered
     
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  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I genuinely don't see how that argument could even be made.


    126lbs

    BoxRec

    1. Stephen Fulton
    2. Angelo Leo
    3. Brandon Figueroa
    4. Leigh Wood
    5. Rafael Espinoza
    6. Robeisy Ramírez
    7. Nick Ball
    8. Raymond Ford
    9. Luis Alberto López
    10. Rey Vargas
    11. Mikito Nakano
    12. Bruce Carrington
    13. Omar Cande Trinidad
    14. Keisuke Matsumoto
    15. Carlos Castro
    Ring Mag:

    1. Leigh Wood
    2. Angelo Leo
    3. Rey Vargas
    4. Nick Ball
    5. Luis Alberto López
    6. Rafael Espinoza
    7. Brandon Figueroa
    8. Raymond Ford
    9. Robeisy Ramírez
    10. Mirco Cuello

    That absolutely one trillion percent doesn't compare to:

    154lbs

    BoxRec:

    1. Terence Crawford
    2. Vergil Ortiz Jr.
    3. Israil Madrimov
    4. Sebastian Fundora
    5. Tim Tszyu
    6. Serhii Bohachuk
    7. Bakhram Murtazaliev
    8. Xander Zayas
    9. Jesus Alejandro Ramos Jr.
    10. Brandon Adams
    11. Charles Conwell
    12. Slawa Spomer
    13. Etoundi Michel William
    14. Abbas Baraou
    15. Radzhab Butaev

    Ring Mag:

    1. Terence Crawford
    2. Israil Madrimov
    3. Sebastian Fundora
    4. Vergil Ortiz Jr.
    5. Tim Tszyu
    6. Serhii Bohachuk
    7. Jesus Alejandro Ramos Jr.
    8. Charles Conwell
    9. Brian Mendoza
    10. Bakhram Murtazaliev
     
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  14. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    175 > 154. Ring has 2 LHWs in P4P top 10: Bivol and Beterbiev. Boxrec has 3: Bivol, Beterbiev and Benavidez.
     
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  15. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok I’ll do it…. There’s a few flaws in these lists but Ring magazine rating Chris Eubank jr at 5 is ridiculous. No justification for this, next gen no desire for titles not worth a rating
     
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