Dmitrii Yurievich Bivol vs. Artur Asilbekovich Beterbiev

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The Beast or The Beast?

Poll closed Oct 12, 2024.
  1. Bivol on points

    35.2%
  2. Bivol by stoppage

    6.1%
  3. Draw

    0.5%
  4. Beterbiev on points

    3.1%
  5. Beterbiev by stoppage

    55.1%
  1. Serge

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    Brandon Glanton said Beterbiev hit him so hard he still felt the pain three weeks later

    Andre Dirrell: ''I got Bivol by KO''

    Glanton: ''By KO. His (Beterbiev's) chin is suspect''

    Dirrell: ''Yes, his chin is suspect'' :facepalm:

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    Beterbiev was dropped by the massive punching Callum Johnson and suffered a flash balance issue KD against Jeff Page

    Bivol's power is underrated and it's not inconceivable that he could catch Beterbiev and hurt and stop him especially given he's almost 40 y/o but Beterbiev has fought lots of big punchers: Gvozdyk, Johnson, Joe Smith, Hot Rod, Yarde, Callum Smith, Cloud, Browne, Prieto

    He fought tons of big punchers during his 300 amateur fights too, a large percentage of at the highest level, including campaigning up at HW against much heavier elite HWs

    Seanie has sparred Beterbiev too so for him to say this about Johnson's power lets you know how hard he hits

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  2. Serge

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    Joe Smith Jr. breaks down the Dmitry Bivol-Artur Beterbiev stylistic matchup

    Artur Beterbiev and Dmitry Bivol hold all four sanctioning body light heavyweight titles between them, and they combine for a highly impressive 43-0 (32 knockouts) record.

    The two rivals will meet for the vacant Ring championship and to decide who is the premier light heavyweight of their generation at the Kingdom Arena, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, on Saturday.

    They share one common opponent, Joe Smith Jr. The American lost to both in world title fights. He was defeated by Bivol (UD) in a WBA title shot in March 2019 and to Beterbiev (TKO 2) in a unification match up in June 2022.

    “It’s definitely a great fight for both guys,” Smith told The Ring. “Both are amazing fighters. Bivol has great technical abilities, so does Beterbiev.




    “In my opinion, they’re two of the best fighters in the world, in all divisions, they could beat anybody. It’s going to be amazing.”

    Smith, who will look to snap a two-fight losing streak when he returns at cruiserweight this fall, was happy to speak about his shared history with both fighters.”(Beterbiev’s) a very accurate puncher and his timing accuracy is right on,” he said. “Bivol is a very slick guy, he’s got great in and out movement. He bounces on feet very well and throws numerous punches and combinations. He’s a difficult fight for anybody.

    “I did hurt Bivol with one shot but went 12 rounds with him. With Beterbiev I did land some decent shots early on but the fight ended quickly (laughs.)”

    The intriguing matchup pits Bivol, a wonderful boxer who with time and space will pick you apart, while Beterbiev methodically breaks you down over a period of time.

    “That’s exactly how I see things,” he concurred. “They’ve got so many abilities it’s definitely going to be a great fight to watch and it could definitely go either way. Beterbiev does break you down and get you out of there but Bivol will break you down in a different way with numerous punches and getting you frustrated because you can’t hit him back (laughs.)

    “I caught him with a nice overhand right at the end of the bell (in round 10), that he didn’t see coming. Thirty seconds earlier, I’d have been the champ! (laughs.) That’s what Beterbiev’s great at doing, so (Bivol has) got to watch out for that punch.”




    Meanwhile, he felt as though whoever landed first in his fight with Beterbiev would win, and perhaps he was a little too gung-ho.

    “That’s how I felt in that fight,” he said. “He caught me with a good shot coming forward, right behind the ear and with the crowd and adrenaline rush, I didn’t give myself time to recover, I just kept going after him and it got me into trouble.”

    Smith Jr. says that both need to fight their fights, and whoever is able to impose their style will go a long way to emerging victorious.

    “I think what Bivol does, in and out, that great movement he has and always being aware of what’s coming to him and being sharp,” he said. “(Beterbiev needs to) take his time and time his shots right. Just being busy when he can be busy. Any time Bivol comes in to throw his punches, punch with him.”

    Smith Jr. broke down each fighter in 10 key categories:

    JAB

    Bivol: “They’ve both got great jabs but I would say Bivol will use his jab more.”

    DEFENSE

    Bivol: “Neither one of them gets hit too much, but I would go with Bivol, with that in-and-out, side-to-side movement he has, where Beterbiev comes straight forward and off to an angle to look for his right hand.”

    HAND SPEED

    Bivol: “Better hand speed, I go to Bivol. They’re both quick, I’d say Bivol throws more variety of punches, I say busy with his feet and hands.”

    FOOTWORK

    Bivol: “You’ve got to go with Bivol. His footwork is different from anything I’ve seen, he bounces like a rabbit, he’s kind of in and out, that little bounce, side-to-side and he picks his angles. Beterbiev works those angles, he’s always coming in, but he steps off to either his right or left. He’s always looking to set up a big shot.”

    SMARTEST

    Split: “Both their I.Q. in the ring is amazing, they both know what they’re looking for, they set things up and put things in motion and take advantage of it when they get opportunity to. I really can’t say either way because both men are dangerous.”

    STRONGEST

    Bivol: “From my experience in the clinches, I thought Bivol was actually stronger but I wasn’t in there too long with Beterbiev to make the call. I didn’t feel Beterbiev was extremely strong when I was in there with him, he caught me in the right spot at the right time which changed everything.”

    POWER

    Beterbiev: “When Beterbiev caught me it was a good shot in the right spot and knocked off my equilibrium where I couldn’t balance myself correctly. Both men are strong but I would give the power to Beterbiev.”

    CHIN

    Split: “I think they’ve both got great chins and the fight could definitely go the distance. You have seen Beterbiev hurt in the past. I’ve seen Bivol hurt against me. They both recover quickly and comeback.”

    SKILLS

    Split: “Both of these guys possess an amazing skill and ability to do what they do. They’re totally different styles and in a way they do have similar traits. You’ve just got to wait to see the fight to really see what happens.”

    BEST OVERALL

    Bivol: “I’m going to give a slight edge to Bivol, just on the movement and the combinations he throws.”

    Smith Jr. believes it’s a fight of fine margins.

    “I can see Beterbiev trying to push the pressure early on, stay on him,” he said. “I can see Bivol being cautious and boxing very well. I think the fights going to build and build and be a great fight.

    “The fight could go either way. You’ve got Bivol with his combinations and feet, he could pick Beterbiev apart. Or Beterbiev where he lands a big shot.

    “I believe it’ll be a close fight. It could be a stoppage both men have the power and ability to stop each other. It’s going to be an interesting fight. I think it’s 50/ 50 both have the slight advantage in certain things.

    “If I had to really make a pick, I’d maybe take my chances with Bivol by decision.”

    https://www.ringtv.com/713912-joe-s...itry-bivol-artur-beterbiev-stylistic-matchup/


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  3. senpai

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  4. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    To beat Beterbiev you must be an ATG to accomplish the task or you crumble, there's no way around it. I've been waiting years, lets see if Bivol has that goat in him like I saw against Pascal
     
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  5. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The thing is, If Malik Zinad can land many bodyshots to Bivol, so can Beterbiev.
     
  6. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I felt that Bivol didn't really repsect Zinad's power much and was looking for a KO - maybe feeling the pressure of critcisims of 9 straight decisions. I can't see him being anything other than UBER-cautious with Beterbiev
     
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  7. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Maybe, but it was too much bodyshots landing for an elite fighter.
     
  8. LenHarvey

    LenHarvey Active Member Full Member

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    Got to slightly favour the younger fresher fighter.. but if Beterbiev does win & becomes undisputed at nearly 40 then the guys an ATG & that's not even debatable. This is even better than Fury Usyk .. because Fury took a lot of damage in his fights leading up to Usyk, wheras these two are cruising through their opposition. This is the best LHW fight since RJJ v Michalkzewski... oh wait... that never happened
     
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  9. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Just can't bring myself to make a prediction.

    Gun to my head, Bivol by razor-close, possibly controversial decision after getting off the canvas once or twice.
     
  10. MetalLicker

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    This has to be the most lopsided 1 fighter by decision and 1 fighter by KO I've ever seen. There is almost no in-between.

    This fight is just so damn intriguing.

    I believe Bivol will build up enough of an early lead and survive a couple scary moments in the late rounds to win a close decision.
     
  11. BrotherFred

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    I think one of the two overlooked outcomes for this fight will happen, either Bivol will KO Artur, or Arthur will outbox and hurt Bivol without being able to finish him.

    I got Bivol by KO
     
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  12. drenlou

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    I think Bivol wins a UD 116-112.
     
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  13. Flo_Raiden

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    This is a fight that I think will be highly competitive in the first half but one fighter will start to take over in the last half of the fight and show their dominance. Beterbiev can slowly break down Bivol's guard and stop him late or Bivol can make the necessary adjustment and start peppering Beterbiev more with fast combos without getting hit in return. This fight can really go either way depending on who adapts first.

    I still think Beterbiev finds a way to win and adds another stoppage win but I won't be shocked if Bivol manages to win without controversy.
     
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  14. drenlou

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    Bivol will win a UD.
     
  15. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    Can't wait for this scrap, squire.

    We're in for a treat, for sure.
     
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