Real results you wouldn’t believe if they never happened and someone picked it in a fantasy matchup

Jose Quinones KO 3 Doug DeWitt

 

The better part of Trevor Berbick's win column.

 

All excellent choices and other than the Turpin/Robinson I saw all of them live.
Especially the Rasario vs Bramble fight.
I remember being so hyped up with anticipation weeks before the fight happened, expecting an epic contest.
Then Rosario literally destroyed Bramble.
Never in my wildest dreams I thought that would happen...

 

I jokingly talked up Ruiz’s chances to a few buddies saying he was a monster blah,blah,blah and when it happened… I had a few people to talk to lol.

 

Great thread, and spot on in the way H2H often mistakenly plays out.
Nunn v Kalambay is tough to beat.
I’d also say Ali knocking Foreman out in 8 rounds, without hitting the canvas himself…and doing rope a dope in the process, would be hard to imagine if I hadn’t seen it.

I also didn’t imagine Tyson v Bonecrusher as a hugging snooze fest.

 

Ray Mercer schooling Lennox Lewis is pretty much the last thing you could've ever expected if you looked at his pro career

Foreman vs Frazier was already mentioned but seriously, that fight SHOULD NOT have happened. Like that is probably the most damaging fight to a single fighter's reputation in boxing history, in terms of where to place them head to head. I know Frazier wasn't as serious for it as he was for Ali 1, but, man.

Alot of you purists in here would for sure not pick Julian Jackson to KO Herol Graham in 4 rounds when it happened, but it did

IRL alot of my friends expected Yarde to beat the tar out of Kovalev when they fought. Lol.

 

Ingemar Johansson KO1 Eddie Machen.

 

Hi Buddy.
Maybe you are a young man, or even middle aged, if so then fair play to you when you say in bold " Should Not " because you are looking back at the fight and its shocking outcome, but in real time Foreman was seen as a rather green no hoper, whereas Frazier was already seen as a ATG , as I have said before, Joe was a huge favourite, the headline on the front page of Boxing News after the Stander win was " can anybody beat Frazier " he was seen as invincible at the time believe me, just a gentle and kindly meant, heads up, that's all.
stay safe buddy, chat soon.

 

Benn knocked out of the ring then stopping the G-Man. Also Benn sparking Barkley.

 

Martinez - Williams II - would raise a few eyebrows if someone called an early one-shot KO for Sergio.

Take your pick from a decade of heavyweight alphabet hot-potato in the 80s. Coetzee stopping Dokes; Berbick outpointing Thomas; Thomas beating Spoon; Bonecrusher bombing out Spoon in less than a round. There was so little pattern throughout the decade on who beat who and how.

 

i meant it shouldnt have happened as in "it shouldnt have gone the way it did"

Frazier fighting Foreman was absolutely something that needed to happen; its just that Frazier lost in such a horrific way that it damaged my ability to perceive him as a strong H2H fighter in anything against a light handed outboxer, pretty much forever

Theoretically no ATG should ever be dominated in the way Frazier was dominated by Foreman. It just shouldnt happen

 

Why though, if Foreman is acknowledged as possibly the hardest puncher & among the best finishers ever? It’s not like he lost this way to, say, Earnie Shavers or Jerry Quarry or something. Surely you don’t think someone like Rocky Marciano would’ve fared any better?

 

Every fight Marciano had at the elite level

 

He is not quite possibly the hardest puncher, Shavers objectively hits harder. He is a great finisher, but I don't see what he did to Frazier occurring to any other top 10 heavyweight. He never even fought Shavers, maybe Shavers would've blasted him out too, it disturbs me to think about. Odd that you randomly bring up Marciano (hint: I know that you're just looking for an argument), but no I don't believe he would dominate Marciano in such a ridiculous fashion as he did to Frazier, Marciano's crouch should actually give Foreman fits, and Marciano won't stupidly rush in to confront Foreman toe to toe as Frazier did, he will likely sit in the crouch and punish Foreman for overextending with lazy lefts with long overhand rights. I actually think the notion that Marciano and Frazier were similar is quite ridiculous, Marciano was a 2 handed high work rate slugger who fought out of a crouch, whom later became a swarmer when he lost some of his brutal athleticism. Frazier was a one handed puncher and swarmer (intrinsically high work rate) who would bob under punches (didn't work for **** against uppercuts). The only similarities they had was having a short reach and high work rate. I don't regard Frazier to be a physical freak to the level of someone like Foreman or Marciano or Jeffries or Liston.

This is to say I still believe Foreman would win, but he would certainly have to work for it. What Foreman did to Frazier genuinely upsets me because it should be impossible

 

I picked Marciano because he’s an all-time great who’s similar moreso to Frazier than any of the others are. Frazier was not at all one-handed, & Shavers would be killed stone dead against Foreman. I guess you just don’t think much of Frazier, if you imagine no other great could lose to Foreman that way.