When people say 18-3 to discredit Lomachenko

This thread has me baffled. It's utter nonsense to discuss this specific matter, thought this was a worshipping thread in disguise.

I honestly wouldn't mind a worshipping thread as long as it wouldn't be disguised since Lomas accomplishments are quite substantial and noteworthy. But if people like to talk about nonsensical matters then more power to them I guess. I will now however take my own advice and make an interesting Loma worshipping thread.

 

I am white ( although that was debatable innthe 19th and early 20th centuries), and I'm bad, I'm nationwide, so I guess im a white nationalist.

Now that that issue is out of the way, once again, I ask for a definition of "All Time Great"?
I can't get a real figure for BHOF inductees....I think there are 271. Are they all ATG? if so surely Loma will be inducted someday and under that definition is an ATG.

Does anyone in here dispute that Loma should be in the BHOF?

 

Agreed. He has a beautiful style. But at the end of the day, what matters most is who you beat. You can look as flashy as you want, but if you lose to a crude slugger (just making a point), it doesn't mean much.

 

If his name was Vasili Lomagustavo he would be undefeated right now.

 

The Mayweather ball bag swingers will always hate Loma as they know if he was afforded the same opportunities as Floyd he would’ve surpassed him but Loma always had the deck stacked against him and his only legit loss he was clearly injured. Also if Loma had gotten the decision against Lopez it really wouldn’t have been seen as that big of a robbery as it was much closer than Floyd Castillo 1

 

Yikes!!!!

I wasn't expecting Floyd's name in this thread....

 

Loma is the most skilled fighter I have ever seen. He had everything at his natural weight.


HE is just unlucky.

 

Okay but @Dynamicpuncher in his OP was pretty moderate - he specified verbatim that in his opinion Loma isn't quite ATG. He's taking guff from Jack for saying that much, while getting it from the other side from Eternal accusing him of being a testicular embracer.

I think Loma's extremist fans - and I get it, they're obnoxious, and the "downloading the data" memes in his prime got old in no time, after seeing less than one percent of them - have made it so that many people who might not consider themselves haters nonetheless have a bit of VDS (Vasyl Derangement Syndrome) where there's a knee-jerk instinct to clap back at the slightest positive or non-critical mention of him.

 

i really dont see the problem either way. there are other fighters who are at least 20-0 who arent being compared to loma. why? because of that very context you seem to feel people dont provide. lomas 20 fights arent like other fighters 20 fights. he is being judged fairly.

 

Lomachenko is an instant HOFer for beating Devin Haney like a woman around the ring for 12 rounds while being 36 year old, 300+ amateur fights of wear and tear, weighing 30lbs less than him in the ring, Haney's cousin referee, 3 blind bats or should say rats judging at the ringside.

 

Loma is hard to rate because his haters downplay him and his fans overrate his resume .

 

I always just tell them that these ‘losses’ are clearly out there to watch on multiple different platforms and many people aren’t as dumb as the ones attempting to use that method to discredit Loma. THANK GOD. So thankfully they can still watch Loma’s fights against Saleazo, Lopez and Nuclear Nostrils haney then judge for themselves

I also tell them that NONE of those L’s on Loma’s record were as clear as mayweather’s unofficial loss to Castillo in their first fight Nor were they as clear as Canelo’s unofficial Loss to Triple G in their first one. Hits home because oddly enough (Not Really) the ones always trying to point to the L’s on Loma’s record are mayweather and Canelo fans. WEIRD!

 

Sorry? SD??? as far as I remember they were not SD, but 2UD and 1 SD. What's subjective is that they are debatable: I don't think that they are debatable, you think that they are debatable. It is subjective.

Facts, Lomachenko's fans have a huge problem with facts. They don't like it, they are heavily emotially invested and they don't like reality so they make up their own reality.