When people say 18-3 to discredit Lomachenko

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    You're right, I'd had a long day yesterday, and it completely slipped my mind that his loss to Haney was a UD. Which only serves the highlight even more how disgustingly corrupt this sport is, because it was his most dominant performance of his three losses. Loma fans don't have a problem with facts, his intellectually dishonest haters have a problem with spinning bull**** narratives and hiding behind official scorecards.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    You just ducked all my points. We can all play the hater and discredit a fighter's resume games but I can play then as well as anyone and it's even easier when the fighter you're attacking has a way better resume than your boy does and has amassed that resume against fighters bigger, much or way bigger than him for the most part and even you yourself admit that 2 of their 3 ''let downs'' should be Ws.

    Funny what happens when you hold your own favs to the same standard as you hold others you hate, eh?

    I'll get started on that metrosexual Japanese leprechaun at a later date who, like Beterbiev, I'm also a huge fan of

    His weight bully ass weighs as much at 122 as Loma does at 135. or only a couple of pounds less But his fans cry how unfair it would be if he was to fight bigger opponents who don't even come near to holding the kind of physical advantages Loma is routinely giving away at 135

    They were separated by 5 divisions when this photo was taken. Embarrassing

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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't take someone seriously who acts like a juvenile saying stuff like "SLomo" grow up seriously.

    As for your other silly comment "He hit my bawllll too hard" so let me get this straight. You have no problem with an opponent fouling another opponent all night long with low blows with no repercussions ?

    Going by your logic why not just let them fight in the street then ? If you're not going to follow the rules and foul your opponent consistently baffling logic.

    Salido also came in overweight he was 147 pounds in a fight scheduled at Featherweight that's why he was stripped of the title.....

    Forgetting that you don't like Lomachenko look it as a boxing fan you think coming into a fight 4 weight classes bigger and being able to low blow your opponent freely with no warning from referee is fair ? And you're totally fine with that ?

    As for Haney yeah he is weight bully we shouldn't mention the fact he's bigger than a prime Marvin Hagler ? And weighs in well over 160+ pounds ? Trying to say Lomachenko is anywhere close in size to Haney is absolutely laughable.
     
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  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Sorry, English is not my first language and we pronounce it like that here.
     
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  5. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    In all seriousness and I'm not trying to be flippant or funny here. But maybe Loma should try eating more food? If he's tired of being significantly outweighed on fight night then he could fix this problem by eating more.
     
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  6. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You don’t think improving to 21-0 with 21 KOs with a decisive win over a prime-ish, elite, p4p level opponent(something very few fighters have) in Bivol and becoming undisputed would make Beterbiev a top p4p fighter and a greater fighter than Lomachenko?

    Personally If we get a decisive winner tonight, I would write the winner right next to Usyk, Crawford and Inoue as one of the best active fighters in the world today.
     
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  7. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    Salido should have been disqualified and it is a big bad luck for Loma's career; thus lose "zero".
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    The US had Leonard, Hearns and Hagler from the same generation, and again Ali, Frazier and Foreman, so.... why does Ukraine have to be limited to one?
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh for real ? i apologize then.
     
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  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Nobody says Loma is not a great great fighter. Even his detractors don’t say that. He should have rematches the guys that beat him like Lopez, Salido and Haney. Of course refusing to fight Tank and retiring stains his record. Funny how people call out Tank but when the reality of facing Tank is upon them they develop mental health issues like Ryan Garcia or start talking about retirement like Loma.
     
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  11. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    His supporters think he is a deity they are that loyal. We made the Tank Test available to him from our PBC side but he does not want to go out being knocked out brutally. I understand and wish comrade Vassily the best. What a ride it has been.
     
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  12. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It doesn’t. You can be great, but you can’t possible be one of the best ever when you haven’t even proved superiority over your peers yet.
     
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  13. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah, they’re called clowns.
     
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  14. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These posts sum up my own position perfectly.

    It's not just the fact that he's only 18-3 that's an issue, it's also the fact that those 18 wins are rather thin. To me, he got way too much hype too quickly from a media that was desperate to anoint a P4P "successor" to genuine ATGs like Mayweather & Pacquiao. Ironically, fighters like Crawford & Inoue that were often in Loma's shadow would turn out to be much worthier of that mantle.

    These 2 statements are almost contradictory given that the best fighters in history often won fights despite giving away significant weight disadvantages. It's almost disingenuous to argue that he deserves to rank among the best so long as he doesn't have to overcome the same obstacles as the best.
     
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