Dmitrii Yurievich Bivol vs. Artur Asilbekovich Beterbiev & Jai Opetaia vs. Jack Massey RBR.

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  1. likeafire

    likeafire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Can’t wait for clap back Thursday with Oscar
     
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    This would have more credibility if american wasn't so silent on Bernard Hopkins, especially the fans.

    Fact is the man doesn't drink or smoke and they have the best of air and food in the Caucasus mountains. Maybe in America where they are eating slop people are declining very early but I'm not going to jump on the juicing bandwagon until I see some evidence.

    Is beterbiev making opponents sign non disclosure agreements where they are drug tested and he isn't like hopkins?
     
  3. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How about they know they were up against it when fighting a Matchroom fighter
     
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    FastSmith7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am equally a fan of both and it wasn’t a robbery for me. I had it draw or 7-5 either side but nothing beyond it
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It’s not the ams.
     
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    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So what I'm seeing is that the 116-112 score makes it a robbery. If you change one round that's 115-113. If there's close rounds, it's conceivable that someone could err on the side of one as opposed to the other.

    I'll need to watch the whole fight as I only saw the late rounds, I'm just wondering if it's some sour feelings going around :thinking:
     
  7. jquest

    jquest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    These guys weren't crying robbery when GGG got robbed.
     
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    :lol:
     
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    I feel bad for Bivol, but I'd have felt bad for Artrur if it went the other way.
     
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    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I saw a lot of Bivol's punches not landing clean as well. The replay will show and the combinations he would land didn't look anywhere near as eye catching. It was close. Neither fighter really established themselves like they wanted.
     
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    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    He took rounds off in the middle.
     
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    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    So if a fighter lands on his opponent's glove, causing that glove to then land on that opponents head, and that opponent goes down for the ten count, it shouldn't be ruled a KO ?

    Is that what you're saying ?
     
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    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol took Beterbiev on numerous times, landing clean, keeping composure and answering with two shots for one, and following up to chase Artur away.

    Anybody taking about Bivol running away should put a pair and try to trench against this much of a puncher. Bivol was showing the gulf in pure boxing class bar the championship rounds where he was running out of steam.

    I would entertain the running away cries of if he was constantly on the ropes or if we weren't living in an era so blatantly incapable and unwilling to produce inside fighters that would deal with such dwarfing power punching disparity in any other way that dictating terms of engagement through movement.

    I absolutely scored the final rounds for Artur, but I absolutely think there is a scoring bias when convenient.
     
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    Both fought a war. Let's do a rematch. I had it a draw.
     
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    lobk Original ESB Member

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    What the **** are you talking about. It has always been about landing more. See Number 1. Are you really this damn dumb? You can't have #2, #3, #4 if the other guy is landing punches on you. If he was able to punch you, you didn't have ring generalship, you didn't have defense, your aggression was not effective. The guy was still landing punches on you.
     
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