Dmitrii Yurievich Bivol vs. Artur Asilbekovich Beterbiev & Jai Opetaia vs. Jack Massey RBR.

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  1. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    What I think is that you dont punch the same at LWH and at CW, and I think that you remove power from Beterbiev and there is nothing left. Beterbiev is not used to fight bigger guys because he has always fought at LHW, hence all the fighters that he has fought are LHW, i.e. his same size.
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Saudi Arabia is ultimately cosmopolitan when it comes to major events like this. They had a female fight and provacative Western music, not to mention Bivol is dating an Arab woman currently.
     
  3. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Compubox had AB landing only 1 more punch in Round 10 : Beterbiev 10/70, Bivol 9/27. From memory, the 11th seemed to be a more dominant round for AB than Round 10 IIRC.

    One thing is clear is that Beterbiev threw a ton more punches than Bivol but at least according to Compubox they ended up landing about the same amount of punches. But the sense I got that was Bivol was working much harder throughout the fight, at least until the late rounds. Due mostly to his movement but also Bivol seemed to be loading up on shots more than Beterbiev was.
     
  4. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    The casuals and boxing establishment was pulling for Bivol. You are beyond ******ed.
     
  5. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Probably the dementia.
     
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  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I understand that but Artur is a devout Muslim fighting in the birthplace of Islam. I agree that Saudi Arabia is cosmopolitan and I'm not suggesting there is an inherent bias towards the muslim fighter, but on the other hand it was something to consider when we try to wrap our minds around why he won the decision. So to be clear, I'm not claiming he won because he was Muslim but it's something that I'm sure crossed all our minds given that most people expected Bivol to get the decision.
     
  7. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Canelo’s resume took a hit tonight
     
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  8. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Everybody, including Artur and his corner knew they lost. Bivol was effective with his combos while Artur was busy with catching a beating.

    Artur's corner told him he needed a KO to win the fight in round 10.

    This decision was made up by corrupt judges.
     
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  9. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Belts and judges are controlled by promoters and alphabet bodies not by fans and former boxers or trainers.
     
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  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Consistently.
    His punches, regardless of where they landed (or when) hurt Bivol more than Bivol's hurt Beterbiev.


    It's great that we have you to explain how we should score fights.
    Where would we be without your vast expertise in scoring rounds and adding up scores.


    Did you say you knew something about scoring ?

    All three judges ( and everybody else) scored the last two rounds for Beterbiev.

    If they had scored those two rounds for Bivol, he would have won the fight

    So, is it your scoring that's weak, or could it be your mathematics ?
     
  11. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    On paper, but the consensus view seems to be that more fans thought Bivol won. So there's that.
     
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  12. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Have they done a heat map of boxer positions during the fight? Bivol was running a lot and did not stand in the centre for most of the fight.
     
  13. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    So much for the prediction hahaha.
     
  14. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I don’t have any problems with that but compubox isn’t worth shite, I don’t put any value in that system.
     
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  15. LenHarvey

    LenHarvey Active Member Full Member

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    In some ways it was a bit Usyk Fury ish.. i felt Bivol won the first half but AB came on stronger in the second.. difference is Usyk hurt Fury bad whereas Beterbiev (although all over him) couldn't land a telling enough blow .. because Bivol is just too good & they are very evenly matched. All in all i enjoyed the boxing, these are the fights boxing needs.. the cringe hip hop concerts are awful tho, dunno what that was about & the atmospheres are terrible too but the fight itself was a purists wet dream.. Beterbiev has just cemented his ATG status, whether u thought he won or lost it was close & to do that at 40 was exceptional. Bivol will come again. Great fighter also.