Wins & Performances at 39+ years old : Where does Beterbievs rank?

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  1. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    In your view, was Saturday a top 10 win and performance of a 39+ year old fighter of all time?

    Hopkins vs Pavlik
    Hopkins vs Taver
    Foreman vs Moorer
    Marquez KO Pac
    Hopkins TKO Hoya
    Hopkins vs Pascal 2
    Pac TKO Matthysse
    Pac UD Thurman
    Wlad UD Jennings
    Golovkin TKO Murata
    Moore vs Durelle




    Where do you view Arturs performance, historically, for a 39+ year old?

    Two things to rate and consider, the quality of his opponent, and the quality of his performance.

    Top 10? Or not quite.
     
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    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    One of the best ever. You hardly ever see a fighter 39 plus beat an elite fighter in their prime. It's hard enough for guys under 35 to do it, let alone at 39. It's probably why Bivol was the Vegas favorite. It's just nearly impossible for a guy that old to beat a guy of Bivol's quality.
     
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    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm not sure, but I'd personally include Hopkins-Pascal 2 over Hopkins-DLH. And I would definitely include Moore-Durelle 1 somewhere, too.
     
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    Thank you. Added!
     
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    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Since it was a gift, not very high.
     
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    What about as a performance itself, outside of the result.
     
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    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Not very impressive, he ran after Bivol speedbagging his gloves for 12 rounds. Showed zero creativity, tried nothing new, was unable to adjust and force the openings that weren't presenting themselves to him.
     
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    Interesting, thanks for the perspective. I like seeing everyones take on it.
     
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  9. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing

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    Archie Moore had some good wins at age 39 and older...
     
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    But... but...his knee!
     
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    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    My personal 39 or older performance was Vitali whooping briggs. He made him pay real good for all that **** talk.
     
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    That was a serious ass whooping.
    Briggs was calling for dat fade with the Klitchko's for a long time and Vitali sure gave it to him :lol:
     
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    Holmes vs Mercer
    Vitali vs Adamek
    Duran vs Castro 2
    Malinga vs Benn 2

    All deserve a mention.

    As for Beterbiev regarding the achievement it ranks high but with the added context of how controversial it is I wouldn't personally have it in my top 10.
     
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  14. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    He’s the best ever, hardest hitter ever. His barely (or not) beating Bivol in a fight that was seen as 50/50 is definitely the best win an older guy has ever scored in the history of boxing.

    Definitely a better win than B-Hop being a legit old man beating world champions, or Foreman, or Marquez stopping top tier p4p ATG Pacquiao for the first time in decades…
     
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    I think everyone is forgetting Luis Ortiz's very important win over Achilles around the 13th century BC.

    They say that Paris shot an arrow guided by the Gods to destroy Achilles ankle but what really happened was Ortiz, then a seasoned veteran soldier in the Trojan army, threw a devastating left hand that shattered Achilles ankles and the rest was history.
     
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