Wins & Performances at 39+ years old : Where does Beterbievs rank?

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  1. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol is ranked top 5 P4P, how many of the losers of those fights went on to be ranked that highly? I'd guess very few.
     
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  2. tinman

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    Yes and USYK WAS 31 YEARS OLD!

    Usyk is better than prime Beterbiev let alone a 39 year old version.
     
  3. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Don't you think Beterbiev beat Usyk in London 2012? I didn't think it was even close. And it wasn't Beterbiev's natural weight class.
     
  4. CST80

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    He ran after his opponent and punched him on the arms, no it wasn't impressive.

    Credit for what? Getting a gift?

    You're a psychopath.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Usyk was 37 years old when he beat Tyson Fury, who was twice his size.

    I agree, so what are we arguing about?
     
  6. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    37 isn't 39.
     
  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Quit overstating the age thing, it's very desperate of you. Regardless, Usyk had to overcome a behemoth with a decent punch, and did it. Beterbiev had to overcome a feather fist, who was the same size, he obviously didn't do it very convincingly.
     
  8. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Peak Usyk is almost unbeatable. Is on a short list of best fighters ever. He's Pacquiao Mayweather level.
     
  9. senpai

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    To go toe-to-toe with top 5 P4P boxer in his PRIME, when Beterbiev is 39 years old.
     
  10. senpai

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    Nope, Fury was/is a fraud and you know it. And he was hurt and vulnerable many times in his career, past prime, unlike Bivol.

    You only talk about size, not skills, because it suits your narrative, but if I say that Callum Smith is same size(height and reach) as Usyk, you would say that it's all about skills, to discredit Beterbievs KO.

    Nobody is saying that Usyk is not special, he is a great boxer, but his fanboys, like you are just not fair.
     
  11. CST80

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    Go toe to toe with and be comprehensively outboxed.
     
  12. CST80

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    But most people don't think he actually beat Bivol, whereas pretty much everyone except for the most delusional posters on this site think Usyk dominated Fury. Sure, Fury is overrated, he's also 6'9, which has been more than most people have been able to deal with up to date, including guys roughly the same size. Beterbiev was dropped like a sack of potatoes by Callum Johnson and badly hurt, someone his own size. Usyk was buzzed exactly once, by an upper cut that would have KO'd a lot of guys cold, including Beterbiev.

    You bring up Callum Smith, to which I say he was dominated by two midgets in John Ryder and Canelo Alvarez..... be quiet, that was way too easy to undermine. Try giving me a big guy, who actually beats other big guys, and you know.... one who isn't dominated by and beaten small guys. There's literally no comparing Callum Smith to Tyson Fury.:lol:
     
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  13. tinman

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    Actually it's not desperate. It's called biology. Hardly any fighter at 39 is still biologically viable at the elite p4p level. That's why you can name the number of guys who have beaten a truly elite fighter in their prime at 39 years or older on 1 hand. In all of boxing history. Kirk, had a good point. Who at the age of 39 has ever actually beaten a primed and ready elite fighter? Beterbiev just did.
     
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  14. UnleashtheFURY

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    Callum Smith. You know the guy you predicted would knock him out.
     
  15. senpai

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    It's you who was talking about size in the first place, I was saying only about the skills, but when I bring size you jump to another excuse, of why only size is not important :bump

    If I say that Fury was dropped by small CW, you would jump to another excuse, saying something to give Fury the credit.

    If I say that Usyk was looking bad (for world glass fighter) against his first two opponents at HW, you would say that it was last time change and Chisora was like a tank in the first 4 rounds. (then he gassed)

    Beterbiev was never badly hurt ( See ? you are just hating now)

    You understand that what's your saying is praising Beterbiev that he would overcome a bad situation and actually KO(finish) all the guys. (but of course, its not important, because it's not your favorite guy. Only Usyk deserves full praise, nobody else)

    Nobody is perfect, not your god Usyk and not Beterbiev. everyone was flaws, but I actually give credit to all guys, saying that Usyk is special and great and Beterbiev is also great, by doing big things at the age of 39.