Who Should Fabio Wardley Fight Next?

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  1. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Going well until the final sentence where recent history informs us that an ex paper World Champion proved that both soft opponents above are zero preparation for a live test.
     
  2. Truth Teller

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    I'd go leftfield and say the European champion, it's a belt he hasn't got which is always the way I'd operate, unless he gets a big offer for something else which may change it. At the minute he is operating around British level so it's the next obvious step in my eyes. Or win the British outright.
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  3. Beale

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    Good shout.
     
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  4. Philosopher

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    Just heard Frank on TS explaining the whole situation with gloves. Worth a listen, informative and shows just how ridiculous many of the assumptions made on this thread are. Clarke was walloped by a powerful fighter with what seems to have been a freak, 1 in a 1000 punch. A perfect storm. ****, as the saying suggests, inevitably happens.. or as a much wiser friend of mine once posited, sit in a barber's chair long enough and you'll get a haircut...
     
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  5. 11player

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    Kabayel, Ajagba, Anderson, Hrgovic, Joyce, all good fights.
     
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  6. Bruce Tea

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    Miller would get walloped. Wardley is more agressive than Dubois and throws nasty bodyshots. He mixes it up better and that's the plan to beat a lump like Miller.
     
  7. Philosopher

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    Whoa there guys. I hope he proves me wrong but Wardley isn't ready to jump up to fight the likes of Miller yet, and throwing him in with that class of fighter will ruin him. For me, the old fashioned route of European and Commonwealth titles would be good grounding for him...and I don't even know who holds those...then he can start sniffing around the gatekeepers like Del, Dillian, regardless of managerial connections, and dare I say, Joyce. Clean them out then reset again...
     
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  8. tragedy

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    "No boxing glove should be able to cause the type of injury that Frazer suffered" - Official doctor at the fight
     
  9. Philosopher

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    Yet it did...as I said earlier, a one in a thousand punch in a one off situation. The word I think you need to concentrate in the Doctor's 'statement' is 'should'. He doesn't say 'that injury cannot have been caused by a boxing glove', he says 'no...should be able to'. I've had a few days off the gym, I should be able to perform very well tomorrow. The weather is said to be fine, I really should walk to the gym. Reality is I will probably ly drive and have an average day...should or should not is not definitive, is it?

    Either way, you translate in how you want. I can't see how a doctor can say definitively what can and can't cause an injury like this, unless they are a doctor specialising in glove design and head trauma.

    Hey, maybe I should pay more attention tonight to the statement. Or maybe I should stick to my guns.

    You know what. I will. Injury was caused by a powerful guy hitting another guy with a lot of power when the guy was in an awkward position and didn't defend himself. I have seen similar injuries caused outside the ring with open hands, cheekbone caved in, jaw hanging off. Shouldn't have happened but it did....
     
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  10. tragedy

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    Because he's a doctor you idiot
     
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  11. Philosopher

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    Thanks for this thoughtful reply. Have a wonderful evening. Peace and love, gbn x
     
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  12. GDM74

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    What’s your theory then or are you just gonna repeat what the doctor said for the 100th time like a simpleton?
     
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  13. tragedy

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    No I just think its idiotic you're using "Frank on TS" as an appeal to authority over an actual doctor.
     
  14. tragedy

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    My theory is that its very likely that either gloves and/or wraps were tampered with at some point before the fight given the extreme severity of the injury, the doctors statements, and the fact that Wardleys punching power seemed to have suddenly increased to bone crushing levels after hitting Clarke hundreds of times for 12 rounds in their last fight and not ever coming close to being able to do that.
     
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  15. Philosopher

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    It was me who mentioned Warren, someone who has spent a lifetime in boxing and examined in minute detail the process the boxers go through, and went through, pre and post fight on that bill. And I also mentioned having physically seen injuries like this and worse happening in combat sports and general fights. Anecdotal to others, sure, but true.

    Doctors specialise for a reason. A general practitioner for instance sends patients to specialists, hence my question about the doctor. If he was a Doctor with many years of examining boxing injuries and exa.ining gloves, his opinion SHOULD carry some weight. I further explained his use of the non definitive 'should' in his statement, something I'd have thought anyone with a basic grasp of English SHOULD have picked up on, but you're continued questioning and accusatory posts of idiocy etc show that SHOULD is not definitive there either.

    Hey man, it's all just opinions in the end, isn't it?

    Have a wonderful evening, I look forward to your reply. Gbn x