Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

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  1. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    FFS... those two middleweights weren't just 'anyone'. I guess you think Jermall Charlo could move up top MW then? What about Canelo? He should be able to beat a weak HW belt holder EASY. BJ Saunders? William Joppy? SHould be peice of cake....
     
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    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    RJJ had something to do with that too. He was tagging Ruiz hard and often before he could even THINK about hugging.
     
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  3. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    If the rules were actually enforced by a strict ref? Sure. Lots of those guys would have a very good chance at beating Ruiz.
     
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    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  5. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    Not all, granted, but many fighters HAVE been in a position where they could pick and choose their opponents. And none went to HW to do it.
    And yes we don't know how many former MW could have stepped up to specifically beat John Ruiz. But we do know one who did... Roy Jones! And the fact Toney also did it could be argued they were both generational talents who could've both beaten other HW contenders in history too. Plus Toney stayed at HW so he was pretty comfortable at the weight there, unlike RJJ who did it as an impressive one off
     
  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Ruiz was not a very big HW. He came up from CW and carried some extra fat on him. He had very limited skills and couldn't punch very hard. Not exactly the biggest threat from a fighter coming up from lower weight divisions trying their luck out at HW.
     
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    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No the irony here is you're dismissing RJJ KOing Hill in 4 rounds which no one ever did to Hill.

    Michalczewski also beat opponents after RJJ beat them does his wins get dismissed aswell according to your logic ?

    As I said 0 IQ response it's literally just a hater spouting mental gymnastics to find a way to discredit a fighter they dislike.
     
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  8. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog submit to Buc-ee's Full Member

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    And youre telling me that failed Soviet genetic experments such as Beterviev are pristine. For a pimp, youre pretty naive.
     
  9. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Moorer and Spinks went up from LHW and beat the MAN of the division. Roy cherrypicked one of the worst HW beltholders ever who was tailor made for him. The win is really only special with RJJs delusional fanbase. It has not aged well.
     
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  10. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Where did I say Beterbiev was pristine lad? I am no pimp I am a legitimate business owner lad.
     
  11. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    AB is a chechen, they have almost nothing to do with russia or soviet union. Your American ignorance is showing. Not to mention he spent most of his career in Canada.
     
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    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    When Roy tried his luck at cruiserweight he was annihilated in one round by Danny Green.
     
  13. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    This is an obtuse argumemt. Jones was finished as a top level fighter by 2004. The Green fight was five years later. Unfortunately because he carried on for so long after his prime it gives rise to idiotic statements like this. It's the equivalent of saying 'when Ali tried his luck against Berbick he was dominated.' Or 'when Tyson tried his luck against McBride he was annihilated' etc
     
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  14. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    That fight is downright embarrassing. Roy was obviously past it, but at the time he had only lost once in the past 4 years to one of the best p4p fighters in the world. Danny Green was seen as an easy win and a good way enter the CW division. Nope. Gets stopped in the first round.
     
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  15. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    It's hard to think of any highly regarded fighter who had as sudden and rapid of a fall from grace as Roy did. I wonder why that is?