Would Jeffries do better than Chuvalo did against Ali in the first fight?

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  1. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Chuvalo is probably the guy Jeffries is compared to most frequently in the modern era, and Chuvalo did well in the first Ali fight. Granted, I remember the main reason for that being the fact that Ali was the heaviest out of all his pre-exile fights, but would Jeffries be able to find similar, or more success?
     
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    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    I would have to assume so.
     
  3. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Do you think Jeff would be better off trying to utilize his crouch, or would it be pointless? Seems like his only route to victory here is the Fitz 2 approach; take 7 to land 1
     
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    I will start by saying that I flatly reject any comparison between Jeffries and Chuvalo.

    They both had good chins, and fought out of a crouch (sometimes in Jeffries case), and that is where the similarities end.

    They are not similar.

    Now I am not saying that Ali would have been right for Jeffries, but he woudl have had much more than his basic stylistic advantage to fall back on.
     
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  5. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    He wouldn't last 3 rounds let alone 15. Chuvalo could actually box a bit.
     
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    clinikill Active Member Full Member

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    Jeffries by 1965 and modern standards was terribly archaic. He would get stopped whilst sporting a brutal crimson mask.
     
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    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Not appreciably so,imo.Ali would land his right over Jeffries low ,waist level left,and jab his face into raw hamburger.
     
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    Wow Jeffries would rip him apart, there's nothing like that Old Timer Toughness. At round 37 Ali would be huffing and puffing and Jeffries would take a swig of whisky from his corner canteen and go in for the kill in round 38. You heard it here first folks.
     
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  9. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Too far apart to make a reasonable assertion. To bring Jeffries into a fifteen-rounder with 1960’s gloves, rules & officials is no fairer or more conclusive than to stick Ali in an outdoor arena over 45-rounds under the conditions of Jeffries’ day. Each would lose to the other if thrown in the opponents’ den.

    It’s a whale & elephant situation.
     
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  10. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe a bit of a leap for a 1903 Jeffries? I'd strongly favor Ali.

    Jeffries 'coming-along-in-Ali's-day' probably has a lot better chance than generally given. I'd still favor Ali, but I think he'd finish sore, tired and somewhat 'extended'.
     
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  11. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    Oy vey these Jefferies threads......
     
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    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Here you go ....

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  13. Journeyman92

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    Depends on the rules!