The British Heavyweight title

Ofcourse it benefits them. Iron sharpens iron.

 

Natural selection. Outside of someone's first 12 learning fights and bum bashing, match them up tough to see whos the best. This should apply for every countries list of pro boxers

 

There is absolutely nothing technically or systemically special about the british title, common wealth titles, or european titles.

What makes theses titles more prestigious than their American, Asian, Oceanic, or African titles is the people.

IMO, as some rando Puerto Rican Florida Man, the british are to be envied and we should all elevate our home titles so they actually matter. That's a small title they act like is a big deal. It's the smallest region I mentioned and probably the most bragged about of any regional title. TF is wrong with the rest of us?


In very basic terms, for those who don't know. A regional belt comes sanctioned by a world body even if they do not seem so. Like for examples the EBU titles are WBC regional titles. The EBU is the WBC's regional body for Europe. Winning an EBU title guarantees placement in the WBC's world ratings.

Bodies being bodies and not always following their own rules is always a thing so, winning region titles is meant to force ranking placements in higher regions until you hit the world level, but is not 100% always followed.

That said, every world body has regional belts and they all have equivalents with one another and second place belts and all sorts of garbage between but that doesn't stop say the NABF title from having more or less worth than EBU.

The last NABF HW fight was Martin Bakole vs Jared Anderson, not bad names at all. It's almost like Americans and Canadians should give at least as much ****s as Europeans do the EBU.

For America to UK direct nation to nation comparison:

Official American ratings:
1Jarrell Miller
2Cassius Chaney
3Richard Torres
4Joe Cusumano
5Jermaine Franklin
)6Jonathan Guidry
7Steven Shaw
8Jeremiah Milton
9Mike Balogun
10Joseph Dawejko

It's not that you don't know any of the Americans who are high domestic low world level fighters, it's we put 0 worth into it.


Y'all feel free to compare and contrast the regions but there's nothing the bodies themselves can do to make the USA title equal to the UK title. It already is, the UK fans treat theirs like it matters, Americans don't.

Hell, even the other british titles don't get the prestige the WBC's titles get in Europe. The BBBofC is the WBC's british regional body. It's a WBC belt that gets you ratings on WBC regional rating boards. BIBA and RBO and such exist but the BBBoC is the one that matters.

Maybe that's just the prestige of having developed the sport. Maybe all's well and we should all be trying to acheive but the British have but never can because the sport can only come from one place. Greece I'm kidding, of course I was alluding to England. The rest of youse brits is just riding English coattails on this one.

 

The Commonwealth belt is supposed to be more prestigious than British because it goes back to 1889 and fighters from all the Commonwealth countries could win it.

 

Whats makes them them the most prestigious because they existed longer than most of the others. At first the NSC/BBBC and IBU/EBU were major alphabet bodies before the WBC and gave up trying to crown world champions because they usually lost. This seperates them from the others which mostly were created much much later. There was briefly an American boxing assocaiation that crowned world champions which went away during the 30s. I think South America had a title pretty early not sure the organization that ran it back then though. The rest are all new.


When the NABF and USBA came about they instantly jumped the Commonwealth and EBU belts in importance because the US dominated boxing and those titles became a pipeline for champions. The USBA even became the IBF. So they DID surpass the Commonwealth and EBU belts in importance if they didn't in prestige. But maybe thats the problem Americans were winning almost every world title so why would one care about a regional belt? Most of the best holders to win NABF/USBA won the world title. The British and Europeans rarely won world titles so European titles were the most prestigious title most European fighters could realistically hope to win. A British fighter could hope to win Commonwealth and European!

But no question people in North America don't care about the North American titles. A few days ago I referenced a fighter winning both the NABF and USBA and I was told "you might be the first person to ever care that a fighter won the NABF/USBA". That sums it up right there.

 

Yeah as it probably earned Mason his biggest ever pay cheque. He mostly only ever beat bums. His resume has only 2 known names that he won against...the 3rd name on his resume pummeled him to his only defeat!! He fought Lewis in what was his 36th pro bout.....35-0 going into it against a green Lewis who was 14-0

 

Yeah man, smallest region mentioned, loudest fans. It's cool and I respect it. I meant no offense at all bro, y'all doing it right.

If you want me to go grab some names I will but Zero got you covered there. You'll know NABF and USBA names, they are stepping stones to world ratings so the guys who own them usually move on to top spots. Usually.

Word bro, it is difficult to explain the systemic and cultural differences. You did a fantastic job. Our issue is cultural, the system does support us, we just don't brag on our boys.