biggest hype job last 20 years ?

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  1. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Came here to say this, I bought into him so that magnifies it.

    But Chris Eubank junior is probably the right answer here, after his win last week, Turki was suggesting the next opponent and Eubanks eyes widened and he said Connor McGregor, says everything about his desire for a world title.
     
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  2. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well no, you can't, really. Wilder is the only one mentioned that depends on the big, telegraphed, wind-up punch.

    I have been telling everyone this for years, but I think people are starting to come around to the truth. Notice how you are the only one in the thread arguing the point?
     
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  3. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In proportion to the media hype generated it is AJ and nobody is close.

    Yes, others have been hyped and fallen short, but nobody has had the media and commercial promotion of AJ from the UK establishment, a combination of many things including the insane power of contemporary mass media but also the political agendas of the system.

    As for Price, he never would have been as promoted like AJ, but he could have had similar boxing results with the management and protection AJ had. There is no way they throw AJ in with Thompson at that point, a fighter who gave Wlad two awkward and difficult fights and was a grinder. That was a terrible matchup for Price and AJ likewise, if you can't KO him you can gas and be in trouble. In the rematch Price would have stopped plenty with that KD but Thompson came back. That ruined his career basically.
    Then Price had other terrible matchups like the tough grinder Hammer and Chisora. No way AJ has those fights while 'rebuilding', in fact as people have mentioned here it's very weird he never fought Chisora this whole time.
     
  4. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Joshua, imo, and I don't even mean that as in anyway discrediting Joshua. It's just that Eddie was selling an infallible GOAT no one could have possibly ever lived up to, and worse, AJ fans in the beginning were in sufferable because they believed Hearn and spoke about Joshua like as if he was some sort of boxing god. Joshua's a great fighter and he actually improved quite a lot over his career. He's not nearly as stiff as he used to be, but no one's ever going to be the fighter Hearn and his followers made AJ out to be.
     
  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Just read your post in a high pitched English accent.

    Price didn't fight Hammer until a couple years after Thompson. And Hammer wasn't very good anyway. Chisora was Price's final fight years later after he'd beaten a couple other British guys.

    AJ destroyed Povetkin and Povetkin knocked out Price.

    You want it one way, but it's the other way.
     
  6. JusABoxinFan

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    Wilder, Ryan Garcia, Tank Davis, & Jaron Ennis......

    Wilder - was exposed vs average talent but they didn't have the ability to connect and stop him. Should have lost to Ortiz in the first fight. He was out for 45 seconds, but that ref let him get touched up without a response all the way to the bell. Anyone else, they step in and call it. His corner got easy paychecks for 40 fights. Taught this man no technique. He relied on a club punch his entire career, thus he didn't respect the sweet science of the sport. Talking about everyone has to be perfect for 12 rounds, he only have to land the perfect punch... His lack of reality was exposed the moment he had to deal with Fury..... man that became a circus.

    Ryan - another man with one weapon. No glorified wins except the one he openly and admittedly cheated to get vs Haney. Face of Boxing my....... Nothing he's done in the ring makes me see him as anything special.

    Tank - gets outboxed by a lot of his opponents. People say he is "downloading" but come on. Leo Santa Cruz tagged him a lot. Had he been a bigger puncher, that fight would have been over. Rolly Romero had the perfect approach to dealing with Tank only to get careless and got clipped. Rolly is nothing special. So if that man is getting the best of you out the gate, well, you aren't as special as you make it out to be. Tank needs to be in the ring vs natural 135lb'ers or 140lb'ers and stop trying to fight these smaller and/or inexperienced opponents.

    Ennis - the only reason he is relevant is because the moment he gets in front of a camera, he mentions Crawford. He looks damn good beating up on lightweights trying to move up to welterweight. He's a natural middleweight. His biggest accomplishment beating up Spence and taking that title off him.........excuse me, that was Crawford.........so how did he get the title?......oh.....he has a WiFi connection.
     
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  7. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Really? Wilder was being hyped as "the baddest man on the planet" and "the hardest puncher in the history of the heavyweight boxing" at some point, when he didn't beat anyone of significance. That's a massive overhype.
     
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  8. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Anthony Joshua is easily the biggest hype job of the last 20 years, as many in this thread have already said.
     
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  9. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    If boxers who have won legit world title belts and indeed retained them for more than one defence are viewed as hype jobs, then there are thousands who have never even held a world title, who are not even good enough to even be called hype jobs.

    I am sure calling anyone of these world champs hype jobs would just result in that champ giving you a wry smile, holding a legit belt supersedes any hype nonsense claim from folk who DKSAB.
     
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  10. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Lucien Bute pre Froch
     
  11. ArseBandit

    ArseBandit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather was about to retire and he used the shoulder roll (badly)
     
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  12. Reinhardt

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    Hmm? ,on second thought, I agree with you .
     
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  13. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The "real" hypejobs are the guys the "hipster" fans would have a heart attack if you brought up ... even though it's true.

    Heavyweights aren't hype jobs. Heavyweights fight everyone, regardless of size. Wilder, for instance, fought in the same division as an amateur as Beterbiev and Usyk, came up fighting thru clubs and shitholes, managed to fight for and win the WBC heavyweight title and was one of most successful defending heavyweight champs in history, and he NEVER outweighed a single opponent for 12 years. He only lost to three guys (all titleholders) who outweighed him by anywhere from 40 (Fury and Parker) to 70 pounds (Zhang).

    Joe Frazier didn't outweigh Ali by 70 pounds. If he did, Ali would've been toast. Jimmy Young didn't outweigh Foreman by 40 or 70 pounds. If he had, George would've been finished.

    People still don't give credit to Wilder for being outweighed by EVERYONE for a dozen years and still putting together one of the most successful all-time reigns.


    NO, the REAL hype jobs of the last 25 years are many of the lighter weight fighters touted as the Pound for Pound best ... when, if you saw them in person, YOU'D LAUGH.

    (Couldn't help it. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CEFdEuZWMAAjp0W.jpg)

    Take Roman "Chocolito" Gonzalez for example. (Get out your heart meds. ;)) He became the #2 pound for pound fighter in the world, after first winning the 104 and 108 pound titles, when he beat 112 pound champ Akira Yaegashi for the Ring 112 pound title.

    A span of EIGHT whole pounds. EIGHT pounds. 40 dudes you wouldn't recognize in a lineup.

    Roman went 40-0 with that win. And, off the top of their heads, likely 99 out of 100 boxing fans (not average sports fans, but boxing fans) couldn't have named one goddamn fighter out of those first 40, let alone identified their faces, Yaegashi included, if you put a gun to their heads, without the help of boxrec or wikipedia or another online source.

    How do you get to be #2 pound-for-pound beating those first 40 guys? And why is winning three titles over 8 POUNDS so AMAZING to some people?

    And Roman isn't the only example.

    In the last quarter century, since the advent of message boards, some fans just love to talk on and on about guys the size of children ... who are supposedly the best fighters in the whole world ... and you just aren't "hip" if you don't fall in line and talk about how awesome they are.

    :rolleyes:

    I remember when fans thought Brandon Rios was some badass. HBO thought he was the next great thing. A female boxing fan on Twitter (when it was Twitter) used to paint all these portraits of him and post them. Everyone would RAVE.

    Then a video got posted of him getting beat up at a party, knocked cold, by some random Mexican guy there.

    Fans who never attend fights tend to be the ones who overhype these guys. When you see them in real life, it's comical how tiny some of them are.


    Anyway ... the list of hype jobs for the last quarter century begins and ends with all those tiny guys on the POUND FOR POUND lists who couldn't beat a pissed off 250-pound teenager who plays American football ... or a random drunk Mexican guy at a party.

    If you are being promoted as the best fighter in the ENTIRE SPORT and you can't beat a grown man who weighs more than 117 pounds, you, my friend, are overhyped.

    And that's the truth.

    How many grown men even weigh 117 pounds?
     
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  14. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Jeff Lacy: I’m not sure about this one. He beat some decent competition honestly, I think Calzaghe just kind of ruined him… but when considering he was expected to blow through Joe….

    Chad Dawson: He had the ability to match the hype, but man what a disappointing career!

    @Dubblechin great comment. Nice to see someone pay Wilder his dues as an overachiever, most people are hating bitches about him.
     
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  15. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Being a heavyweight champ has always received the label as “baddest man on the planet” and the way he knocked out several of these men, he is clearly one of the hardest punchers ever. Even when fighting lesser competition most great punchers didn’t have frightening knockouts like Stiverne or Lyakovich…

    Definitely not a top ATG “fighter”, but I’d say he is an ATG puncher.
     
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