Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

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  1. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are literally trying to rewrite history, that's not what happened at all. Meanwhile it was ROY who was out on his feet, 1 punch away from being stopped

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  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm trying to rewrite history ? let's look a the footage right now. 8:30 into the video Beterbiev gets clocked with a left hook and goes down, he gets up and stumbles towards to corner with Sugar Ray Leonard commentating says this exact quote "he's in trouble".

    As for RJJ being 1 punch away from being stopped by Lou Del Valle absolutely hilarious and i'm rewriting history ? you're the first person to ever think RJJ was close to being stopped by Lou Del Valle lol absolutely bizarre take with no truth at all other than you posting nonsense yet again.

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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Can you please stop quoting me if you haven't got a clue what you're talking about ?

    Clinton Woods was a champion for 3 years and made 4 title defences which is 4 times more than Gvodzyk made who you keep hyping up for some reason.

    But i guess beating a 41 year old Stevenson is some ATG achievement according to you.
     
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  4. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    The more you post the more you reveal how little you actually know about boxing.
     
  5. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was no more hurt than RJJ was against del valle
     
  6. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Against who? Nobody, the division was garbage at that time. LHW has never been a great division but its much more stacked in this era, much more actual professional boxers instead of part timers
     
  7. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hmm no RJJ got up instantly and looked annoyed that he got caught.

    Beterbiev got dropped heavily and then stumbled towards the corner looking hurt and even the commentator Sugar Ray Leonard said "He's in trouble"
     
  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So now you're changing the goalposts because i proved you have a lack of knowledge on a fighter ? do you just say any random nonsense that comes into your head ?

    Clinton Woods beat Julio Cesar Gonzalez twice who dethroned long reign champion Dariusz Michalczewski, he also beat Glen Johnson who is another very notable Light Heavyweight.

    As for the Light Heavyweight division never being a great division ? that's one of the dumbest comments i've ever read on this forum. So you've never heard of the likes of Michael Spinks, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Dwight Muhammad Qawi, Victor Galindez, John Conteh, Marvin Johnson, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, which is considered a great era for Light Heavyweights in the late 70s early 80s ?

    In the 1940s/1950s you had Archie Moore, Jimmy Bivins, Ezzard Charles, Harold Johnson, Joey Maxim, which is another great era for Light Heavyweights infact you had the top 2 Light Heavyweights of all time in that same era Charles, Moore.

    This era is not a strong era for Light Heavyweights either what are you talking about ? apart from Beterbiev and Bivol there's pretty much no real stand out Light Heavyweights.

    Just stop replying it's clear you haven't got the boxing knowledge for this discussion it's actually alarming how limited your knowledge is.
     
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  9. tarrant45

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    Instead of arguing over knock downs which happen in the sport to almost anyone, you should be comparing their skills and attributes. Roy would have been way too fast and accurate for beterbiev who has poor defense and is very hittable. He would have smacked him around, and stopped him imo. Beterbiev would never be able to corner him consistently either with Roys feet. That is prime Roy not the shot version who was not able to let his hands go vs Glenn Johnson.
     
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  10. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    oh yeah the guy who went the distance with david telesco and went 11 rounds with richard "the landscaper from florida" hall, while on steroids, is going to stop AB. Yeah, okay pal.
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Again showing your lack of knowledge Richard Hall had two brutal wars with Dariusz Michaelczewski and disfigured Michalczewski's face in their 1st meeting with some feeling Michalczewski got a lucky break with the fight being stopped in his favour.

    Instead of keep coming out with clueless comments you should watch more fights and increase your boxing knowledge.
     
  12. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    That is some really bad logic. That is like saying mathew hatton went the distance with Canelo how the hell can Canelo stop Kovalev. I could make 50 other examples like that.
     
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  13. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i would say both were hurt about the same, which wasnt much. enough to freeze em for a split second, but without an immediate follow up in that split second of helplessness, they can clear their head and get their feet under them by counts end.
     
  14. The Long Count

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    I think Roy would struggle more with Bivol than Beterbiev. At least the Beterbiev of the Bivol fight.

    Roy’s best weight was 168. He was still really good at light heavy. But if we’re being fair he was on Roids. Stuff that you wouldn’t get away with today.
    Also Tarver doesn’t get enough credit for knocking Roy out. Watch that fight again, Roy’s speed was back and he was as confident as ever. Roy fans want to dismiss the loss as “he was never the same coming back down from heavyweight” that’s not true. Tarver knocked out a very good version of Jones. Jones looked much sharper than he did in their first fight.
    After that fight, Roy was scared to be hit and his career totally tanked.
     
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're trolling.