the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mantequilla, Nov 20, 2009.


  1. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not too well versed on the old-timers, but took a look on YT after reading your post and man - this looks like a bang on comparision!
    Gaspar looks eerily similar both in terms of technique - whipping his shots, that's a great way to describe it - and also with the way He would mix movement and long-range fighting with inside fighting in spots, constantly changing things up in very fluid manner.

    I'm now intrigued if Verno was the kind of guy who'd study tape of old-timers, or that style came natural to him.
     
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  2. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've seen just about everything available on Lopez but recall being very disappointed over the Clemente fight. These two were basically just warming up before the fight was over on a technical before any fireworks could be realized. Just a downer when i saw it back in the day. I would recommend his fight with Jose Torres (which you've probably seen), which is out there in its entirety. Very competitive. Also, I wish Danny's fight with Tury Pineda was out there. Man, I remember being on pins and needles when that fight was taking place and they didn't disappoint. They went at it tooth and nail. Do you recall that fight?
     
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  3. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    @Russell my bad. I just saw the Torres fight was on the playlist. I gotta learn to read the whole chessboard before replying.
     
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  4. FThabxinfan

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    Èder Jofre vs Masahiko Fighting Harada (Undisputed Bantamweight title bout)
    Rounds 1-4: Harada 40-36
    Round 5: draw 50-46
    Round 6: Jofre 59-56
    Round 7: Harada 69-65
    Round 8: Jofre 78-75
    Round 9: Harada 88-84
    Round 10: Jofre 97-94
    Round 11: Jofre 106-104
    Rounds 12-13: draw 126-124
    Round 14: Jofre 135-134
    Round 15: Harada 145-143
    Review:I'm just about to rewatch the fight again so here's my scoring of the fight before,this is the original Hearns vs Leonard I and Duràn vs Leonard I,simply pure skill and talent trading.
     
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  5. Mastrangelo

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    2000-04-23 Hideki Todaka TKO11 Yokthai Sithoar (WBA Super Flyweight Title)
    Round 1: 9:10
    Round 2: 10:9
    Round 3: 9:10
    Round 4: 9:10
    Round 5: 9:10
    Round 6: 10:9
    Round 7: 9:10
    Round 8: 10:8 (Sithoar was knocked down)
    Round 9: 10:9
    Round 10: 10:9
    Final Score: 95:94 Todaka

    Searching through the forum, I saw that this fight was recomended here as a great obscure battle couple times before, by @Flo_Raiden and @Vic-JofreBRASIL - and it was certainly excellent.
    For most of the first 8 rounds, Thai Sithoar looked like clearly the better, more fluid fighter. He was throwing more, landing at higher rate - Todaka was hanging in tough, but looked slower and could not get going.
    Everything changed at the end of round 8, with also slight controversy perhaps. Todaka threw an overhand right just before the bell ending the round - but it certainly landed after the bell. Sithoar was seriously hurt and down for the count.
    From that point, it was partly him never really recovering - and also Todaka fighting with renewed belief and urgency. Japanese champion took over and broke brave Thai in the 11-th.

    I'll add my recomendation to couple previous ones that were voiced on the forum. Highly entertaining, dramatic battle.
     
  6. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This battle reminds me of Bobby Chacon vs Alexis Arguello, Chacon was winning until Alexis lands that mean blow after the bell.
     
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  7. Moggy94

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    Fantastic fight here, I agree with Adamek winning something along the lines of 115-112, maybe 116-112 and can even see a draw as there was a couple swing rounds. Adamek was more consistent when it comes to outboxing Briggs but Briggs landed the harder single shots but they weren't as consistent as Adamek. Adamek's size helped him take the shots and you get the feeling that if this was a fight to the finish then the outcome might be different.
     
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  8. Mastrangelo

    Mastrangelo Active Member Full Member

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    Not sure if it's well known fact outside of Poland - but Adamek suffered a broken nose in sparring 4 weeks before that fight. He could not pass on the opportunity, not knowing when - if ever - He'd get another chance to fight for a title, let alone on big stage like that.
    He did not spar for the last couple weeks, went through with the fight... and then had to survive a 12 round war with Briggs. Adamek was unbelievably tough - but then so was Briggs, whose background I believe was in Muay Thai.
     
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  9. Saintpat

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    I was at Azumah Nelson-Lupe Suarez. Seemed to be going Lupe’s way but Azumah clocked him into never-never land after the bell and stopped him the next round. I think TV cut to commercial just before the foul blow so folks at home didn’t see it.

    On the one hand, I got to see The Professor in person and am grateful to have witnessed an ATG at work; on the other, it was a purposeful cheap shot out of desperation and I hate that it turned out to be the decider.
     
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  10. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Johnny Tapia v Danny Romero (super flyweight title)

    Round 1: 10-10 Even
    Round 2: 10-9 Tapia
    Round 3: 10-9 Tapia
    Round 4: 10-9 Romero
    Round 5: 10-9 Romero
    Round 6: 10-9 Romero
    Round 7: 10-9 Tapia
    Round 8: 10-10 Even
    Round 9: 10-9 Tapia
    Round 10: 10-9 Tapia
    Round 11: 10-9 Tapia
    Round 12: 10-9 Romero

    Total: 116-114 Tapia (actual scores: 115-113, 116-112 and another 116-112 all for Tapia)

    Saw this fight when it took place but did not score it. Hunkering down today and scrutinizing everything, the fight was closer than I remembered (on my card anyway). What was noticeable to me was that Johnny - who was a real showman - threw a lot of flashy punches but Romero threw a lot of substantive shots. I would imagine it would be easy to get caught up in the moment of such a polarizing event in New Mexico with the unification of the title and the divided public. And cheering at anything your hero was throwing. But one really has to watch this closely. But I did agree with the judges, just having it closer than two of the judges. But a damn good fight and it would have been cool to be there because that atmosphere must've been electric.
     
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  11. Saintpat

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    I’m not sure any fighter in history wore his heart on his sleeve quite as much (and as well) as Johnny Tapia.

    Sad end to a troubled life, but lordy did he give us some great memories. RIP Johnny.
     
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  12. FThabxinfan

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    Fun fighter,a combination of Barrera and Hamed.
     
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  13. Mastrangelo

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    2000-05-20 Felix Machado D12 Julio Gamboa I (Vacant IBF Super Flyweight Title)
    Round 1: 10:9
    Round 2: 10:9*
    Round 3: 9:10
    Round 4 9:8 (Gamboa knocked down, Machado loses a point)
    Round 5: 9:10
    Round 6: 9:10
    Round 7: 10:9
    Round 8: 10:9
    Round 9: 10:9
    Round 10: 9:9 (Machado loses a point)
    Roudn 11: 10:9
    Round 12: 9:10
    Final Score: 114:111 Machado

    Fight for a belt vacated by Marc "Too Sharp" Johnson, between two former world title challangers from Venezuela (Machado) and Nicaragua (Gamboa).
    Two fighters lacked a bit in techinique - both were swinging with their punches and telegraphing a bit, but both were athlethic and very well conditioned.
    While Gamboa was the one pushing forward, Machado was the one throwing more off back foot and in my eyes, was beating Gamboa to the punch in the middle range exchanges in most of the rounds. Gamboa was able to land single heavy looking shots, but most of the times - Machado would come back right away and was usually first and last to punch.
    Point deductions were at the very least controversial. Machado was holding his opponent a bit in spots to keep him in position to punch - but it's something You see quite often and is usually sort of an tolerarated violation on the edge of legality. Deductions were also very quick, without any clear prior warnings.

    I see You scored it this year as well, @scartissue . I had it a bit closer than You, but I also had Machado winning clearly.

     
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    Gabriel "Flash" Elorde vs Carlos Ortiz(LW Non Title Match)
    Round 1: Ortiz 10-9
    Round 2: draw 20-19
    Round 3: draw 30-29
    Round 4: Ortiz 40-38
    Round 5: Ortiz 50-47
    Round 6: Ortiz 60-56
    Round 7: missing
    Round 8: missing
    Round 9: Elorde 69-66
    Round 10: draw 79-76
    Round 11: draw 89-86
    Round 12: Ortiz 99-95
    Round 13: draw 109-105
    Round 14: KO
    Review:I thought my scorecards are a bit generous towards Flash, especially with that 13th round,I still find the fight quite entertaining despite rooting for Elorde,he may have lost but he pulled a quite competitive fight in such a tough schedule he was in (he just fought Laguna and some other world rankers before)
     
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  15. Saintpat

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    Sal Sanchez studied Danny Lopez and realized the key was not knocking him down. If you put him on the floor, he was going to get back up and end you, so Sal cleverly outfought him without overdoing it.