Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

There were only two top light heavyweights that Roy didn't fight and those were Dariuz M and Graciano Rochigiani. Nobody wanted to see Roy vs GR and people were way more interested in seeing Roy vs Reggie Johnson than they were in a Roy vs DM fight as seen by the poll conducted by HBO.

There was never talk of a Roy vs Jirov fight and Calzaghe only became interested in a Roy fight after Roy already had three legitimate losses on his record.

Roy really wasn't the biggest LHW as seen in his fights vs Richard Hall, Antonio Tarver and Julio Cesar Gonzalez so demanding that Roy fight at cruiser would not have been reasonable.

Many of Roys opponents would have beaten Bivol and Beterbiev with little effort and Roy would have beaten them with even less effort.

 

Favoring Roys opponents over Beterbiev let alone with little effort is ridiculous. What would one base such a silly argument on?

Nobody was even close to beating Beterbiev in his prime

 

Roy was a shot fighter at that point. Completely ignoring Roy became HW champ. You are just a hater, pointless debating.

 

Look up recency bias. Beterbiev went life and death with friggin Yarde and was down on the score cards before he stopped him, and Yarde is nothing special at all. If Yarde was hitting Beterbiev all night with his left hook, just imagine Roy..

 

Which of Roy's light heavyweight opponents would beat Beterbiev and Bivol with little effort? Because from what I can gage all of Roy's opponents get battered by either Beterbiev, Bivol, Gvodzyk, Kovalev, Andre Ward. Are you talking about:-

A 5 ft 9 Glen Johnson, former Middleweight? He beats Beterbiev with little effort?

or a 40 year old Mike McCallum. He beats Bivol with little effort?

or Clinton Woods, Reggie Johnson, Virgil Hill? Montell Griffin?

Maybe you talking about Telesco.

Come on man, even Joe Smith Jr beats up most of those guys.

 

Lmao. You live in pure fantasy land like most Roid Jones fanboys.

 

Roy was never THE Heavyweight champ that was Lennox Lewis. John Ruiz was a paper belt holder. A fraud.

 

Most fans had Beterbiev well ahead on the scorecards at the time of the stoppage. Moreover Beterbiev was 38 vs Yarde and probably slipping. If we are going to hold the Yarde fight against Beterbiev then Roy's loss to Tarver at age 35 should count as well.

 

You’re saying, “Roy became HW champ.” Shows you are just a hater (of truth), pointless debating.

 

Ruiz won the belt from Holyfield. He was not Lewis but he proved to be a solid HW fighter with a bunch of decent wins. He was no bum and not an easy beat.

 

Some facts we can all agree on.

Prime Roy was extremely hard to hit clean and corner.
Prime Roy was leagues faster than Beterbiev, and with KO power.
Prime Roy was more skilled.
Beterbiev does not have 1 punch power.
Beterbiev has poor defense and is very hittable.

How this translates to Beterbiev beating Roy Jones is beyond me.

 

@Serge i just caught up on some of your replies and in all honesty i don't want to go into all of it again. I think you said it right we're going round in circles with some of these points and i'm the type of guy that likes to debate with a few replies then move on. I don't think we're a million miles away in some of our thoughts i think we just see a few things differently.

I quoted this part of your post and for me that's good enough you clearly respect him as a fighter it's just we see certain aspects differently. The only think i disliked about this thread is that the person who made it no offence doesn't have the knowledge on RJJ's career, and it is frustrating when you see a fighter getting discredited from someone who doesn't actually know properly about RJJ's opposition or the context of his career.

I'm going to bail out of this thread now i think everything has been addressed, i would still pick RJJ to beat Beterbiev because i think he get's hit far too much for my liking. But obviously i realize Beterbiev would be a threat to RJJ and i certainly wouldn't be overly confident in my pick.

 

Yarde landed 38% of his power punches against Beterbiev. Bivol landed 50%, which is higher than he landed against Zurdo. Beterbiev has poor defense and would be target practice for Roy Jones. If you can't even acknowledge these facts, its pointless discussing it.

 

Compubox doesn't back up the assessment that he was harder to hit than Beterbiev
McCallum landed 209 punches
Hopkins landed 153 punches
Lou de Valle landed 113 punches