Comparing Roy jones Jr at LHW to Artur beterbiev is crazy talk

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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ha!

    I love it that you’re here.

    It’s been a long time.


    But come on now.

    We’re either trolling, or we’re legitimately debating.

    Which is it to be?


    This would have been a great fight.
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    It’s just too bad that you haven’t got a clue what you’re talking about.
     
  3. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Terrible logic.
     
  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Every fighter has wear and tear.

    Yes, of course Artur has wear and tear.

    Over 300 amateur fights is an awful lot.


    However, let’s be real.

    Roy trained every day.

    He had professional fights, sanctioned for 10-12 rounds.

    He had 8-10 week camps before each fight.


    He fought pro for 15 years, where he had 50 fights before he lost to Tarver and Johnson.

    He also had numerous hand injuries.

    He went up and down divisions.


    Yet you’re painting a picture in this thread, where Artur had wear and tear, yet Roy didn’t.

    Yet Artur was having 3 round fights with head gear, whilst Roy was fighting world level opposition for up to 12 rounds.


    Let’s be objective.

    They both travelled different paths, but both of them had plenty of wear and tear.


    You can’t say that Roy had no wear and tear because he never had wars etc.

    The guy was a world level fighter for 15 years.
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Terrible trolling attempt.
     
  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Let’s have the specifics, genius.
     
  7. Loudon

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    Clinton Woods was of a similar level to the majority of Artur’s world level wins.

    And Artur only has 10 world level wins in his entire pro career.
     
  8. Loudon

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    BS.

    Today’s LHW division is not in any way stacked.

    You are clueless.
     
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  9. Loudon

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    Would a guy who got dropped by Henry Cooper, have gone on to have beaten a ferocious George Foreman??

    Great logic, Einstein.
     
  10. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    That’s your level of thinking?

    Is this really what you’ve been reduced to?
     
  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who did he duck?
     
  12. Loudon

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    Another genius like post, with zero context applied.


    Artur has only been a pro for 10 years.

    He’s only fought 10 world level fighters, with only one of them being elite, who he barely beat.


    Yes, he’s in much better shape than Roy was in at a similar age.

    But at a similar age, Roy had fought almost 60 pro fights, across 5 division, spanning 20 years.


    Why don’t you think before you type?


    Abused by a near shot Calzaghe?

    Calzaghe wasn’t nearly shot.

    He was coming in off of the best wins of his career, where he was a top 10 P4P fighter at the time.


    You also keep talking about the fight with Dariusz, where I’ve told you repeatedly, that no official meetings ever took place.

    Not one.

    Because Universum would never sit down with Roy’s advisors and the execs from HBO.

    Dariusz was more than happy milking his lightly regarded WBO in Germany, just like how Calzaghe did for years with his in Britain.
     
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  13. Loudon

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    The same network you’re talking about went out of their way to try and make the fights with Dariusz and Hopkins.

    We have detailed statements from Kerry Davis and Mark Taffet.

    I posted the links years ago.


    The fans were bored with Roy’s easy wins, and they wanted fights against Dariusz and Hopkins.

    A segment of fans and media were behind the ‘Roycott’

    However, it was only very briefly, and they weren’t aware of what was happening behind the scenes.


    HBO supported him.

    They offered Hopkins $6m and an extra fight on HBO.

    Mark Taffet has said that.

    Yet Hopkins demanded $10m, before taking a year out.


    Also, Telesco, Gonzalez and Harmon were all pre-approved fights by HBO.


    You have no idea what you’re talking about.

    You are an ignoramus.

    You’re only getting my time, because I’ve decided that clowning you guys is slightly more entertaining than doing a few household chores.
     
  14. Loudon

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    Roy immediately rematched Tarver, then fought him in a trilogy, after 2 consecutive knockout defeats.

    Yet some online nobody claims that he never took risks.

    SMH.
     
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  15. Loudon

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    Terrible logic.

    Del Valle was a tall southpaw who’d sparred many rounds with him.


    Yes, Artur is on another level.

    Yes, Artur could have knocked out Del Valle.


    But they’re completely different stylistic match ups.

    Artur couldn’t have landed that same southpaw left hand.


    You are using casual fan logic and making a fool of yourself.
     
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