the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Another great fight I watched today.

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Kassim Ouma vs Verno Phillips 1

1 Ouma
2 Ouma
3 Ouma
4 Phillips
5 Phillips
6 Even
7 Ouma
8 Ouma
9 Ouma 10-8 Knockdown
10 Ouma

98-92 Ouma

I decided to watch this fight after seeing you guys talk about it @scartissue @Mastrangelo

I really enjoy this fight what a barnburner!!! a fun fight to score Ouma was a punching machine throwing 100+ punches a round and he won most of the rounds on sheer activity. Phillips did land some eye catching punches and i felt he stole a few rounds with the more effective punches despite getting swamped in activity in most of the rounds.

I didn't think the fight was that close personally although it was competitive throughout until the last 2 rounds where Ouma floored Phillips with a solar plexus shot in round 9 and Phillips didn't seem to recover from it fully.

Ouma threw 1331 punches and landed 460 punches that's a ridiculous punch output especially for only 10 rounds. And simply those stats tell the story Ouma was just a punching machine and threw in combinations which i liked and i felt he won most of the rounds based on that even though the fight was competitive.

Overall a very fun fight with some awesome exchanges but clearly Ouma was the better man and won clearly in my eyes.

 

Kassim Ouma vs Verno Phillips 2

1 Phillips
2 Phillips
3 Phillips
4 Ouma
5 Ouma
6 Ouma
7 Ouma
8 Phillips
9 Phillips
10 Phillips
11 Ouma 10-8 no knockdown but a very dominant round.
12 Ouma

114-113 Ouma

@scartissue this wasn't as good as the 1st fight but it had some momentum swings and late drama i would say it's worth watching and it's a much closer fight so a fun to score in that respect.

Phillips came out with a better gameplan this time around and boxed very nicely in the first 2 rounds using movement and neutralizing Ouma's offence. In the 3rd round Ouma started to get his workrate going like the 1st fight. And by the 4th round Ouma made it his type of fight again and forced Phillips into more of a brawl where Ouma outworked him once again.

The fight then turned around again as Phillips regained control between rounds 8-10 as once again Phillips did well boxing/moving landing clean accurate shots as Ouma went a bit flat with his workrate.

Going into the last 2 rounds i felt like Ouma needed a strong finish and boy did he deliver, it was like deja vu all over again as Ouma once again hurt Phillips late on with a body shot and doubled him over in the 11th round. Only time this time Phillips managed to stay on his feet but i thought it was such a dominant round for Ouma that it warranted a 10-8 round and i believe all 3 judges scored it 10-8 aswell.

Going into the last round Phillips was just in survival mode as Ouma also clearly took the 12th round and ended up winning a close decision on two of the judges scorecards 114-113 x2 with another judge somehow having it as wide as 117-110 ? which i thought was a bit baffling.

Overall the dominant 11th round for Ouma was the difference in the fight because otherwise the fight would've been a majority draw. My scoring of 114-113 seemed to in line with 2 of the judges i think it was a very close fight but Ouma in the end was a deserving winner for his late rally.

I don't think this fight reached the heights of the 1st fight but still an intriguing fight worth watching with some late drama.

 

Going through some classic footage this morning, and DAMN was there even a middleweight puncher like "Cylcone" Hart? You can literally see the raw power in his actions. Hagler said no one ever hit him like Hart in a interview a few years ago. I believe him!

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D, I've been meaning to check the rematch out. Good writeup, dude.

 

Russell, that second clip was one I hadn't seen. Man, that was a "chilling effect" type of KO, wasn't it?

 

I have the full match if you're interested, though the quality isn't the greatest.

Antofurmo also said Hart was by far the biggest puncher he shared a ring with... and that was a washed up Cyclone about the call it quits! Vito said Hart's bodyshots lifted his feet off the canvas. Wild stuff.

 

I watched this classic for the umpteenth time and had a good chuckle.

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Roberto Duran W15 Sugar Ray Leonard

I know, this is kind of "Classic Boxing 101" stuff, but although I've seen this in full a good couple times, I don't remember ever actually scoring it. Duran has proved his mettle at the weight, now comfortably outgrowing the lightweight ranks, and Leonard is making his second defense of the WBC welterweight title.

I've always sort of poo-pooed this fight in terms of greatness, mostly to tweak the nose of the Duran faithful. It's a real good fight for sure. I've seen better, as there IS a lot of grappling here, but it represents spectacular infighting as well, an art so horribly lost now. Duran is a master at it, though Leonard does his best to hang in and has several shining moments.

Much has been written about Leonard fighting the wrong fight and insisting on fighting flat-footed. It's true, he didn't use his legs like one though he could and should have. In truth, though, I'm not sure he could have effectively done that anyway. Duran has a knack of sliding in quickly behind numerous feints and imposing himself to either side of Leonard in attack and he closes very quickly, perhaps too quickly for Leonard to react to by jabbing and utilizing side-to-side movement. With Duran attacking via angles and forcing Leonard to react and retreat even if only momentarily in preparation to respond, he takes away Leonard's ability to proactively use movement and plan out anything effectively. He's too busy reacting to Duran's frenzied rushes to impose his own will. If you analyze the punchstat numbers (and I won't bother, if they exist), I wouldn't be shocked to see Leonard was on par with Duran in terms of number of punches landed. It's just that Duran controlled the pace almost exclusively, imposing his will whereas Leonard let him lead the dance and had to be content with having a round here and there where he was able to separate a little and land more chopping shots inside and flurry off the ropes in eye-catching fashion, chipping away at Duran's lead. But he was always playing from behind here, and for once Leonard didn't lead his own parade.

Not my favorite fight, but a damn good one. Duran is an offensive genius, and Leonard in turn proved multi-faceted and adept in areas many fans and pundits had wondered about.

1. Duran
2. Duran
3. Duran
4. Duran
5. Leonard
6. Leonard
7. Duran
8. Even
9. Duran
10. Leonard
11. Leonard
12. Duran
13. Duran
14. Leonard
15. Leonard

144-142 Duran.

 

Whether Leonard could have used his legs more effectively or Duran would have still been able to cut him off and force his terms of combat is, of course, an unknown, but Leonard obviously did employ a different approach in the rematch (to positive results for him).

But I always thought it was funny that some argue how Leonard didn’t want to face the best Duran and should have somehow said ‘Roberto, when you get done partying and get back in shape, give me a call and we’ll set up a date that suits you for as much money as you want’ — that, in short, Leonard wanted to face a degraded Duran (also ignoring that within two weeks of the first fight he called Mike Trainer and said he wanted a rematch as soon as possible and to get working on making it happen).

BUT …

Duran did clearly goad Leonard before the first fight and challenge his manhood to basically say ‘come stand toe to toe with me and prove you’re better’ and got under Leonard’s skin … yet no one discredits Roberto for not wanting to face the best possible Leonard he could have faced. Shouldn’t Duran have instead insisted that Ray box him to prove he could beat Leonard’s most effective game plan against Duran? Shouldn’t he have not wanted to mess with Leonard’s head to get his blood boiling and instead taken a calm approach because he wanted Leonard to be clear-headed and best able to concentrate on boxing?

Always thought that was kind of a contradiction.

 

Duran and his legions of die-hard fans are rife with contradictions, and pick and choose which memories to embrace and which to conveniently ignore.

 

Iran Barkley SD12 Thomas Hearns II(WBA Light Heavyweight Title Match)
R1: Iran 10-9
R2: draw 20-19
R3: draw 30-29
R4: draw 39-38
R5: draw 49-48
R6: draw 59-58
R7: Iran 69-67
R8: Iran 79-76
R9: draw 89-86
R10: Tommy 98-96(Iran deducted for low blows)
R11: draw 108-106
R12: draw 118-116
Review:dam close fight, I don't think Tommy shelling up for most of the fight was result of wrong gameplan tho,he knew how much power Iran had and what happened when he just left a single,small opening to one of his big shots...
But either way this was a good barnburner, Iran proves despite being a gatekeeper he's definitely Tommy's nightmare,but Tommy showed great heart there too,he wasn't wrong when he says "the fight could go both ways",love The Blade and The Hitman.

 

As a Duràn fan myself I was kind of that guy before,but despite me today not really minding much about the no mas losses and some other controversies of him,I heard somewhere Leonard team's plan was to take Duràn out inside 4 or 5,but Duràn survived and went back to action,and looking at the fight it wasn't all wrong, Leonard unleashed great,precise offense to snap down Duràn but he survived and...you know the results,like someone also says the truth of him quitting is as true as peak Duràn beating peak Leonard,whatever the reason is he really quits,and his later,smaller fights where many fans thought he got robbed in some of them, it's close fights,not robberies.

 

It seemed to me that Hearns simply no longer had the legs at that age and weight to move as he might have otherwise. Barkley was just bigger and stronger.

 

One of my favourite fights because washed-up Cooper brought in to lose against hometown boy Melito for the WBF title.

Sad thing was that Cooper was alledgely overheard saying on leaving "Finally won the World title".

Had lost his last 3 fights and would go 8-4 for the rest of his career. Never defended his "World" title. RIP