This is utter drivel.Kindly refer to my previous posts on these issues and educate yourself. Thank you.
We are since Dempsey fought to survive and for food while Liston was a thug that used to beat people for mob. Dempsey also didn't have any fighting experience before he turned pro unlike Liston.
Didn't exist? It exists even now in some states who are borders with Mexico, but in late 1890 after civil war it was even harder than in time when Liston grew up 40 years later. Dempsey was native american mixed with Irish descent, what made you think that he was less discriminated than Listom especially because he was skinny small kid.
Agree i have been a member of this forun now for 5 years and he must be one of the worst posters i have come across
He's been permabanned off THREE different accounts (and he admitted to being those accounts) and is now bypassing a permaban with another account. Bypassing a temporary ban with an alt is grounds for a permaban...... but I guess bypassing a permaban with an alt is A-OK. What the **** are these mods doing?
speculations about how long the Wild West existed just to argue that Liston was not an outstanding HW is a manifestation of extreme stupidity and desperation. I really don't know if you realize how stupid it is or if you're just having fun, but I don't think you'll convince anyone of your point, unless you're actually a troll who enjoys pointless discussions
Quite low. Sonny's rough life, marginalized status, physical gifts, and criminal history made boxing a natural career path for him. Sonny may not have even become a heavyweight boxer if he'd been saddled with Calvin Brock's middle class upbringing and less impressive physical abilities relative to his time period. Let alone somebody like Ingo, who had to become a boxer in an egalitarian welfare state.
If you wish to categorize men like Marty Marshall as a '' bum '' then that's entirely up to you. Of course it does make you look like a complete idiot but of course that is your right. Mind how you go.
Your observations on the '' Wild West '' are so outrageously stupid that I'm becoming more convinced that you are a troll. Please read some American history.Then compare the lot of a black man growing up in pre civil-rights America compared to a white man ( albeit a poor one ) growing up in the last 5 years of the 19th century and the early part of the 20th century. Sonny Liston was abused by brutal father who whipped him so severly that Sonny's back was permanently scarred.Dempsey had the securiy of being raised in a convential,ordinary family. If you persist in maintaining that Dempsey had a harder life than Liston then I can only conclude that you are extremely stupid or you are a troll.
So you are saying that before he turned pro Dempsey '' fought to survive and for food ''.You then state that Dempsey '' didn't have any fighting experience before he turned pro '' ? You are completely and utterly contradicting yourself.
I don't wish because he is a bum with paded record used for young pro fighters to fill their record, which means a tomato can/ human heavybag. I know it hurts that only your hero lost against a bum early unlike all time greats.
Fighting as boxing and fighting to survive in life are not the same thing which you fail to understand, which shows your stupidity. Dempsey didn't have any amateur fighting experience with anyone who could box.