Ebanie Bridges

Fanny means butt in the US but means a woman`s priva

 

As opposed to the paragons of virtue in the male game presumeably? Jeez...

 

At least some of the fellas can actually fight.

Women's boxing is tedious. Purely used to get cheap world title fights on cards. A couple have hit the jackpot but mainly cheap world title fights.

 

Each to their own. I've seen some absolute stinkers of fights over the years, some for 'world' titles or recently manufactured ones...women's boxing is not the only guilty party here, the men's gane is equally bad. A good fight is a good fight at whatever level it hits. Women's MMA in particular has improved exponentially and I expect the boxing game to do the same. Seems simple for me, if people don't like it, don't watch it...but why hurl abuse at others who are at Keady having a scrap simple because of their gender? I'll bet many making these comments have never been in a ring, cage or on a mat or had a scrap more meaningful than a drunken handbags at dawn....

 

With all due respect, a women’s world title fight is normally put on just before the main event which makes it difficult to avoid. You may be a fan of women’s boxing and good luck to you for that but even a keen watcher as yourself must be aware that those 20 minutes can be quite an atmosphere killer. As for the ‘ I bet you haven’t been in a fight ‘ argument, that’s an incredibly tedious point. Do you have to have done stand up to know if a comedian is good or bad ? Do you have to be a published author to know if a book is any good ? Or maybe you need to be an actor of note before you can state that Daniel Day Lewis is perhaps a better actor than some kid on Hollyoaks ? I’ve never had a fight in my life, why should I , I’m not a thug but having watched boxing for decades, I know than Nick Ball is a better, more talented boxer than Shannon Courtney ever was even though they have both held WBA belts. I love there to be all women boxing shows so that I can avoid watching them but it was only done once and hasn’t been done since. I wonder why ?

 

Female fights cost nothing to arrange and for the promoters it looks good on paper to be able to present a "world title fight".

There are a few really good female boxers that I enjoy, but the vast majority are not worth watching.

 

To address your points one by one, because I feel we may he at cross purposes.

A woman's fight anywhere on a bill can be avoided, just don't watch it. If you are suggesting that every male fight on a bill is high quality and engaging, I'd like to watch the shows you do. Sadly, a solid bill with entertaining fights from start to finish is relatively rare, so the argument here against sub standard women's fights is equally applicable to the men's game.

I am not a fan of women's boxing, I am a boxing fan. I fully agree that the quality of fights on a card will and does vary hugely...regardless of the sex of the fighters. I do concede as you suggest that a woman's world champion will be more than likely less skillfully than their male counterpart. Of course they are, but they are still the best in the world at their sport amongst their peers.

I am not suggesting someone needs to have boxed to comment on boxing ability, I was commenting on some of the comments describing a female boxer as 'trash' etc when there are many male boxers who are much less savoury characters seems off to me. To make derogatory comments like this about someone choosing to make a living fighting from the comfort of one's own armchair strikes me as unsavoury. I respect anyone who sets foot in a ring from a warrior point of view even if i dont like their personal traits. Do I hope some fighters lose because of their personality? Of course, but personal slurs like 'trash' and casting aspersions on skill and heart etc seems wrong when the person making the allegations has not even had the bottle to get their hands dirty. See 'it's not the critic who counts' for reference. Some of those throwing these insults may have experience of combat but I still don't think it's cool to talk this way, it is disrespectful and cheap. Others may disagree on this one, and that's cool. So, I possibly worded my post incorrectly.

Women only shows? Surely they are trying to increase the public profile of women's boxing and give it legitimacy by having mixed bills. Look at the strides other combat sports have made doing this, particualry mma, more people interested, more people entering, more funding, then the standard rises. Guess what, just like the men's game.

Hey, I'm perhaps a bit strange with my feelings about using derogatory language etc when we don't even know someone, and particulalry when they are essentially risking their health for a living and for our entertainment, but this is a discussion forum, and I'm having a discussion.

Thanks for your thoughtful reply man, peace and love, gbn x

 

If there was an honest, genuine push towards equality then I could understand and be on board, but 90% of the time (well, 100% of the time in Hearn’s case), the push and promotion of women’s fights is all about looking good from a PR POV, but most importantly, being able to do fights on the cheap. Novice females fighting for ‘world titles’ on a bill is the modern day equivalent of every Warren show in the early 2000s having WBU ‘world’ titles up for grabs.

Women’s boxing isn’t my thing but at least with Boxxer, it fits a bit more as they’ve built their entire ‘brand’ on being diverse. They’ve only got one white male headliner anywhere near the top of their cards (and even that came about a bit by accident), which would have seemed mad a few years back.

 

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I enjoyed reading it very much. Fundamentally I agree with everything you say though I don’t believe I said that you never see a bad men’s fight. I’ve witnessed the entirety of Johnny ‘ the Entertainer ‘ Nelson’s career so I know a stinker when I see one. There’s a narrative around a women’s title fight that is pretty repetitive, 10 round decision with little likelihood of a stoppage, landslide unanimous scores and commentators telling us that we’re watching a classic. We’re posting on a boxing forum , we know what we’re watching. I remember a Jonas fight, against Mayer I think, that the Sky commentators compared to Hagler Hearns. A terrible comparison as Hagler Hearns was a brutal 3 rounder while Jonas Mayer inevitably went the distance. The quality of boxing broadcasters in Britain isn’t great. I think we all agree about that. It was a good fight but, come on, thats insulting to people on so many levels. I don’t think any commentators in the UK have the balls to call a women’s fight boring even if it clearly is. Maybe I’m wrong but they can’t all be edge of the seat, fight of the year contenders can they ?

 

Imagine Liverpool v Aston Villa tonight with a cracking 45 minutes and 2-2 at HT. Then on come the women to play their 45 minutes before the men play their 2nd half.

There would be uproar and boxing should be no different.

Nearly all women's boxing is tripe and it simply kills the atmosphere at events and interrupts the viewing on TV.

Take last week as a classic example repeated many times.

Essuman v Vaughan had everybody buzzing and ready for the main event in a great fight. Then we had 20 mins of El Slapo with her tip tap tip against a next to zero risk opponent. We all knew what was coming - a complete repetitive bore for 20 minutes.

People lose enthusiasm for the main event and it is sickening people.

 

But that is a false equivalence man. Football don't work like that. Let's imagine say waiting on a top of the bill headline fight on a boxing card, and the fight before the top of the bill is a bit ****. Its boring. It holds no interest for you....chap, that happens all the time. Male or female. If the female fight the other night had been like Taylor v Serrano would you have had the same complaint?

 

Neither did boxing before Hearn and Sky added this woke turd to the sport.

 

At least female MMA fighters score KO`s, female boxers really lack punch power.

 

Taylor never stops anyone, she has no power at all.

 

Female UFC fights are boring, Nunes was a class act and a few of them have some good boxing skills but most female UFC fights are really boring, the only female that ever drew in the UFC was Ronda Rousey because she was so cocky and marketable despite being extremely limited in the cage, on average female UFC fighter suck.