Jaron Ennis vs. Karen Chukhadzhian II & Jesse James Rodríguez Franco vs. Pedro Gibran Guevara RBR

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  1. Diddy

    Diddy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And no I don’t think Ennis beats Bud.
     
  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    I want Gonzales finish off the old guard
     
  3. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Needs to change his nick name. It is no longer Boots.

    Jaron “When you going to get him outa here” Ennis
     
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  4. Juan carlos

    Juan carlos Active Member Full Member

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    Karen landed the best punches... she lacks power, that's all... Jaron beat Gabo for several rounds but Karen won more rounds... that's how it is... I like Ennis, he looks very athletic and strong but he lost tonight... and he better start improving himself because if he doesn't reach the highest level... he won't be one of the best of his time.
     
  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Karen was more accurate, he didn't win more rounds. This is the same situation as Madrimov vs Crawford
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Smokey Boots is very physically gifted and Karen is underrated and skilled with great footwork, toughness and he's a bad stylistic match up for Smokey Boots whether he stands in front of him and fights or uses the ring and boxes and runs. Smokey Boots will do much better against other fighters who don't have Karen's exceptional feet and his skills.

    That being said

    1. The judges scorecards were criminal, including even the closer one

    2. Harvey Dock proves yet again how corrupt he is. The irony of US refs deducting points from foreigners for holding couldn't be anymore priceless when it's one of the staples of US slickness. And please explain to me how he deducted a point from Karen for holding when he allowed Haney to hold like crazy against Garcia without even giving him a hard warning and did everything within his power to ensure he made it to the final bell which he 100% wouldn't of without Dock allowing him to hold way more than Karen did? No one can

    And how didn't he deduct a point from Smokey Boots for the low blows and still didn't after giving him a hard warning for it when he deducted a point from Karen after giving him a hard warning?

    3. Karen definitely won at least 6 rounds. How can anyone with the gift of sight argue otherwise? Did you miss all the clean eye catching shots he was landing all night and how many rounds he actually did that in whilst outlanding Smokey Boots in those rounds? At least attempt to be fair for goodness sake
     
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  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i dont think boots should move up to 154. unless he was drained and thats why his punches lacked the legs in them. then yeah, he should move up. but he didnt look drained, and he came in a pound under. he also didnt appear to lose steam like a drained fighter would.
    i like the barrios fight for him. hes got a trinket, credible name, and skilled enought to test whatever it is team boots works on between now and then. cause they really need to work on some things.
    also, barrios is a local kid, so i want him to make a buck. they would attract a big gate here in texas.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Ryan still rightfully has it in for Dock.:D
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  9. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I hope Ryan takes that fight, he isn't half as skilled or durable as Karen
     
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  10. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Garcia only has the left and it looks like he would be able to land it. He isn’t as skill as Karen but he has twice the power and speed. Karen landed left hooks all night on Ennis. If Garcia can do the same its lights out.
     
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  11. Third_Brotha

    Third_Brotha New Member Full Member

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    I didn't like the immediate excuse of its time to move up to 154. Also didn't care for Bozy repeatedly telling Boots to get Chukhadzian out of there as if Boots was playing around. Chukhadzian actually exhibited the better boxing skills between the two of them. Better footwork, better defense, better timing and covering distance, also landed the majority of the crispy looking punches of the fight. He just couldn't crack Boots' chin. Kid takes a good shot. Chukhadzian won clear rounds, 4 or 5 of them. He had a great game plan, he just didn't have the stamina to keep his work rate high enough for 12 rounds.

    Who will Boots fight in the future who will give him the beautiful boxing that Chukhadzian gave him? Vergil Ortiz doesn't have that type of boxing ability
     
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  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He couldn't even KO Haney who got rocked by Lomachenko, Linares. Haney still won about 4 rounds despite getting dropped 5 times by Garcia, that shows Garcia is too limited.

    I don't rate Ryans chances against Ennis. We can't forget he got smoked by the much smaller Tank and dropped by Campbell. Haney even rocked him once, Haney has no power
     
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  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Dock used to be a decent referee but he was bought out by the powers that be to replace the aging company men like Bayless, Weaks and Cortez.
     
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  14. Nz1111

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    I want to see boots vs teo. Teo doesn't have the movement of Karen but he's still dangerous.
     
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  15. LrryMrchntsFlsk

    LrryMrchntsFlsk Active Member Full Member

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    Was gonna say the same thing..