Jaron Ennis vs. Karen Chukhadzhian II & Jesse James Rodríguez Franco vs. Pedro Gibran Guevara RBR

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  1. Shazzar23

    Shazzar23 Demetrius Bivol Full Member

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    It wouldn't be too hard for him to land going off this. God damn, man. Boots got hit with everything. He's got negative defense.
     
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  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I'm just going to run this by you again

    119-107
    117-109
    116-110

    Even the third one is criminal but good luck trying to explain the other two. You score rounds off what both fighters are doing not just one and when one of them is landing clean eye catching shots all night and outworking the other in a least six of the rounds bare minimum when they're doing so how in God's name do you come up with scorecards like that unless you're corrupt as sin or blind?
     
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  3. Nz1111

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    Both men would get hit. Ryan barely defends the head. It would be fun to watch but boots has the bigger gun here.
     
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  4. Shazzar23

    Shazzar23 Demetrius Bivol Full Member

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    They were paid off. Harvey Dock too.
     
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  5. LrryMrchntsFlsk

    LrryMrchntsFlsk Active Member Full Member

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    Neither Loma nor Linares were able to put Haney on his butt. Some might argue that if Dock didn't allow Haney to hold and not have deducted a point from Ryan during the 7th round, Ryan might have KOd him.

    Boots is way more hittable than Haney. Would be an exciting fight between Boots and Ryan in my opinion.
     
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  6. Nz1111

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    Id watch for sure. I do think Ryan is even more hittable since he doesn't even defend the head and I'd usually pick the bigger object in a collision course which would be boots.

    Id rather see boots vs teo honestly.
     
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  7. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Interesting that Dock allowed Haney to hold on for dear life against Loma and Garcia but immediately deducts a point from Chukhadzhian for holding against Ennis.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    There's no other explanation. We just watched an extremely competitive fight where even with a KD and a point deduction the other guy has a strong case for winning and who clearly won at least 50% of the rounds but the judges had it super wide or almost a blow out

    The criminality of these judges is off the charts. I remember watching Korobov light Jermallo up with eye catching big backhands all night and clearly sweep the first 6 or 7 rounds but one judge scored the fight 119-109 Jermallo. They ain't just robbing the bank they're robbing every single branch and emptying every last coin and note from them
     
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  9. LrryMrchntsFlsk

    LrryMrchntsFlsk Active Member Full Member

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    You're right! I hadn't thought about it until you mentioned it...
     
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  10. lobk

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    I am no fan if Garcia myself but I guarantee you Davis wont rematch him at 140. As for Ennis fight , if and those are big ifs, Garcia can land that left hook he has a very good chance of pulling the upset.
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Okay, boots has a much better chin than Ryan. Ryan has never fought a durable welterweight, what proves that he hits harder than Villa ? Loma and Linares are not even huge punchers at 135
     
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  12. Nz1111

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    Why are we even talking about Ryan, I wouldn't even be surprised if the Haney fight is his last win. He's a mess right now mentally and he's gonna be coming back from a long layoff
     
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  13. Diddy

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    Ennis would knock Garcia out cold. Especially if he’s not on drugs and coming in intentionally heavy. Garcia isn’t going anywhere near Ennis. Be serious.
     
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  14. Nz1111

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    Teo vs Ennis is much more realistic and frankly a tossup. I do think Ennis stops teo late though
     
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  15. Serge

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    Whilst Smokey Boots stock goes down and Karen's goes up the later is bad style match up for him and Smokey is not going to encounter many with his combination of skill, footwork, and toughness. He will do much better against other styles.

    Garcia has the power in that left hook Karen lacks and if he catches Smokey clean with it he could KO him. But likewise Smokey Boots possesses power Garcia has never felt and Garcia does not have footwork anywhere near as good as Karen's. He's there to be hit too

    Regarding that corrupt snake Dock allowing Haney to hold like crazy all night against Garcia without issuing him a single hard warning. He 100% saved Haney from a KO loss.
     
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