Jaron Ennis vs. Karen Chukhadzhian II & Jesse James Rodríguez Franco vs. Pedro Gibran Guevara RBR

Yea, this is no act....You are actually struggling with comprehension...... Again, I gave an example by using Crawford....to showcase the double standard used in Ennis's case...... How TF you aren't understanding that is the fault of your local public school system.

It's weird that you are trying so hard to ignore the facts I put out but am focusing on the fact that Crawford's name was mentioned. If Crawford's name makes you that emotional, just ignore everything I said after the first paragraph of that post.....

I'll repeat it for you......

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There.....are you able to move on and discuss my actual point or are we still dwelling on the fact Crawford's name was used as an example?

 

But I'm not. I was obviously referring to Karen, Discussion over

 

Pick and choose?

What points were pick and chosen...... I address the age, the amount of fights, the rankings of the fighters, the accolades/accomplishments of the fighters, the amount of fights, etc........ There was no point picked nor chosen.......

What we have here is an ignorant fan refusing to face the reality of it all....... Again, let me correct you.....

BOOTS HAS NEVER FOUGHT FOR A BELT...... He was given the world title when Crawford was stripped..... Or are you counting that Interim title as a major accomplishment..... An interim is nothing more than a mandatory status for a world title..... That's as far as Boots has fought for.

What good names did Boots fight during that time......Please inform me........The only name that Boots fought that's sniffed any type of a world title was Sergey Lipinets who was a title holder at the lightweight division for a few months. Please, who are the "quite a few" good names. I'm trying to see if you actually follow the sport or if you are just a Man Fan......what name are you going to give me in this "quite a few" for Ennis. We already know that his first 22 fights were a bunch of garbage bouts. Fighting guys who had more losses than he had fights total. Name one fighter that is a better win than Ray Beltran, Ricky Burns, or Gamboa.........

And you said let's not act like Crawford fought anyone in the top 10 before facing Burns.........lol....... Do you not know how he got that fight....To get the fight vs Ricky Burns, Crawford was fighting in eliminator bouts. You do know that in order to be in an eliminator you have to be ranked in the top 10 of the division. Crawford took the Prescott fight on a 3 DAYS NOTICE and then fought Alejandro Sanabria who was #12 in the division. Then fought Andrey Klimov with the winner getting the Ricky Burns fight. HE WASN'T GIVEN HIS TITLE, HE WENT OVER THERE AND TOOK IT. Something Boots can't say he's done.

 

Why because you feel what you said should just be accepted without rebuttal....lol..... That's like a female running her mouth on the phone and then hanging up when her man is about to respond..... I hope you aren't that emotional.......lol.......

I didn't argue you were wrong. I simply just wanted to make sure that the same standard is being held for Boots as it did for (the name I won't say so you don't get back in your feelings......lol). You may not be one of them, but it's clear many on this forum are more accepting that Ennis's opponent may actually be tough.....but a few weeks ago, another switch hitter, they were claiming he struggled with a guy who naturally was a bigger guy and was athletic.

 

You're trolling, it's the only logical explanation

 

Ignorant fan? I am not a Boots fan, even tho you conjured up that fantasy.

How do you think Boots got the interim belt? He fought the same eliminator fights your praise Crawford for. Custio Clayton was one of them.
Sure, Beltran, Burns and Gamboa were more established than anyone on Boots resume, but Crawford had the fortune of being their stablemate and getting those fights. Boots first 2 title defenses have been underwhelming in comparison.
But I was not talking about that, I was talking about their fights before they won their first belt.
Boots beat: Abreu, Heerden, Lipinets, Dulorme and Clayton. This is on par or better than what Crawford did.

And why are you blaming Boots for the belt holder not fighting him? Boots even fought the top ranked Chukhadzhian for an interim belt while waiting for his opportunity, so he wasn´t just given the IBF belt. He fought the ranked contenders, something you dismissed.

The audacity to call me ignorant when you don´t know **** all about Boots. Use Google before running your mouth like that.

 

Not the only logical explanation. Because another explanation is, you simply don't want to have a conversation with someone who may disagree with your opinion. And that's coo. We don't have to discuss it if you don't want to. Just stop trying to play victim as if I'm bullying you or something.

I simply said that I hope we aren't moving the goal post in favor of Jaron Ennis. You got in your feelings because I used Crawford as an example, ignoring the point of the post. If "moving the goal post" is not what you are doing and/or your intent, then move on with the conversation. No big deal....

 

So you disagree that Ennis's wins over Karen will age well ? That's fine, conversation over

 

It was a messy fight, both fighters were wide open.

 

I agree, I guess I expected a bit more from Boots against Karen second time around. Maybe I unfairly expected a KO or a TKO, But I have to give credit to Boots for trying and for trying to give boxing fans an exciting scrap.

 

Lol.....Interim belt......the ignorance is showing itself. An interim belt is nothing more than a mandatory status. It's not an actual title. It is a placement holder at best.

You brought up Boots fighting Abreu, Heerden, Lipinets, Dulorme, & Clayton.......that is NOT on par or better than Crawford. None of those guys were a part of any eliminator for a world title for Ennis. You are really reaching. It's laughable. Lipinets was a lightweight trying to move up. He had done NOTHING at 147. Dulorme........Dulorme got stopped by Crawford when Crawford was 135 moving up to 140. Dulorme lost 5 of his next 8 bouts getting to Ennis. Clayton.... a 31 year old prize fighter. Dude was nothing more than a body builder. He only had one 12 round bout one his resume. i guess he can be your "ranked contender" you pointed out. He was 10th in the division on fight night. Got in the ring and was afraid to get hit by Boots. Heerden would have been a great name drop if they actually fought. The fight was called after an accidental head butt in the 1st round. Abreu......my damn buddy. You are really reaching dude....give me something positive about Abreu's career. You are going to HAVE TO use google to find information about him to make him relevant.

I don't need GOOGLE to speak on Boots. I've followed his career since he was a teen. Met him and his family multiple times. I don't know anything about Boots......No goofy......YOU don't know anything about Boots..... You should probably rely on Google to see how dumb you sound.... Feel free to count how many of Crawford's opponents had over 25 losses coming into the fight with him......I can tell you the exact amount for Boots. I can tell you the exact amount of fighters with losing records that stepped in the ring with Boots.

Boots problem with getting a fight has nothing to do with him being avoided. That's the gimmick he and his camp push to match his athleticism. He doesn't get fights because negotiation is horrible on their end due to their representation. Now they are with Eddie and it's not getting any better as they are trying to overprice Boots and other managers see he has done NOTHING worth their fighter getting less that 40%......Norman, Barrios, Stanionis, etc......all of these guys are on par with Ennis, but Hearn wants you to believe, they are beneath him. Due to WHAT.....

Everything stated here is documented and factual..... Stop using your emotions to keep the conversation going. Some of us are actually involved in this sport and follow the actual actions within the sport. You Man Fans kill me. You think everything is centered around the man you love.....lol.

 

I stopped reading after this. Clayton was an eliminator bout.

 

The worst part is Eddie Hearn saying nothing similar to when he cried his eyes out at the post fight press conference for Bivol /Beterbiev recently

Absolutely cretin

 

I'll have to watch this rematch but the first fight was very close 116-112 or 115-113 in Ennis favour. The 120-108 cards across the board reeks of corruption.

 

I never watched the first fight but @Serge has told me it was quite competitive and seeing as how you agree also I'll take both of your words for it.