If shot Fury beats peak Usyk, where does he rank?

Usyk is a bit past it toO, so premise does not make sense.

This is one of those situations where if Fury won and they had a rubber, both would jump in all-time ratings, just like Ali-Frazier, Louis-Schmeling, Leonard-Duran, etc.

But Usyk is going to win again, and Fury off to the consolation prize with Joshua.

 

Usyk is not in his prime, his prime ended with the first AJ fight for me or thereabouts.

He is still remarkably good, and probably at 90% of his prime but definitely a tad slower with his hands and feet than he used to be.

 

Might be a bit of a conspiracy theory but I don't think Usyk wantd to show us his best at HW in that fight, to not scare off top opposition + he broke both his hands in the Chisora fight, early on

 

I heard he had covid shortly before.

 

A fighter can be 'past it', like people are saying Usyk is. But the true sign of an elite legendary boxer is one that adapts to their decline and maintains their status. Usyk is doing exactly this

 

His legs aren't what they once were and I prefer the the the Uncle Peter version of Fury but I wouldn't say he was totally shot.. he looked really good last time out he just lost to an exceptional fighter.. I don't put much stock in the Ngannou performance .. I don't think he took it seriously .. look at the shape he was in.. and he got a bit of a rude Awakening for it .. the Joshua Joshua Ngannou fight showed where Francis is really at at the highest levels of boxing. I don't think Joshua is better than Fury do you? The guy just got obliterated by Dubois... if anything Usyk is at the tipping point.. he's 38 next time round.. look at the likes of Holyfield, Lewis, Wladimir etc at 37.. they were fading.. their performances were becoming more questionable... regardless of who wins this next fight I think both of them are Hall of Fame HWs.. but if they do go 1-1 with each other & Fury does get a W over Usyk then just like Usyk hed cemented an ATG legacy. Not just a HOF one. Even though these guys get their s*** I think we should appreciate them while they are around.. because they are not going to be around for much longer and from what i can see the heavyweight division is going to take a serious dip afterwards.. i mean Anderson just got obliterated & im not sold on any of the up & comers... this has really been a very solid HW era.. Usyk, Fury, Joshua, Zhang, Parker, Wilder, Dubois, Whyte, Chisora, Joyce, Bakole etc.. there's nothing close to that coming on the horizon at HW yet, if ever again..

 

Sorry to be a douche, but this question sounds "fan boyish"to me. You post as if it's obvious. Fury has always had ups and downs in fights. He tends to fight to the level of his comp. Nobody thought he looked "shot" in the 1st 4-5 rounds v Usyk. He was absolutely boxing the brakes off of Usyk. Usyk proved however to be the more disciplined and focused of the 2 and c are back and won the fight. Let's be completely honest, as a Fury fan myself, he's truly never fought great competition, and he finally got in their w/ a guy with great ring IQ who could match him in intelligence, adaptability, etc. and he lost. I think you discredit Usyk w/ this thread. Fury has every physical advantage in the book and Usyk beat him. Plain & simple. Don't short change him b/c you're a bigger fan of Fury. Again, sorry to be a D bag but this thread is fan boyish at best IMO.

 

Usyk is nowhere near his prime.

 

Go watch Usyk vs Briedis and Gassiev, then come back to me, he's CLEARLY declined!

 

Chisora X3
Cunningham
Wladimir
Wilder X2 or X3
Whyte

And let's say he beats Usyk twice making it 2-1 establishing his dominance over this era.

That wouldn't be enough to surpass Lennox Lewis as the best British Heavyweight of all time. Lennox dominated the past, present and future of heavyweight boxing in his reign. Bowe fight didn't happen but it didn't hurt his achievements. The Joshua fight would have helped make a better case for Fury.

Fury has/had the potential to surpass Lennox to become the best British Heavyweight of all time. If Fury goes on to add Usyk and then Dubois to his wins... then he has a strong valid argument for being Britain's best heavyweight of all time.