Michael Gerard Tyson vs. Jacob Joseph Paul

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"Kid Dynamite" or "Problem Child"?

Poll closed Nov 15, 2024.
  1. Tyson on points

    5.1%
  2. Tyson by stoppage

    30.9%
  3. Draw

    12.0%
  4. Paul on points

    18.3%
  5. Paul by stoppage

    33.7%
  1. humbug

    humbug In Vino Veritas Full Member

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  2. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ah...i take it these are wind up posts.

    I think they are real. He,s just stacking the deck. Roiding and paying for all expenses training camps/nutrition etc and treating it seriously.

    He gets wiped out against real boxers but his attributes are tricky for ageing athletes that mostly aren,t boxers.

    I will say tho i m still slightly surprised even older mma stars cant beat him even if its boxing mostly being lifelong athletes etc.
     
  3. Flo_Raiden

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  4. CocoonOfHorror

    CocoonOfHorror New Member Full Member

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    Do you think the Askren knock out looked real?
     
  5. bbjc

    bbjc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes. As i said hes stacking the deck while probably using steroids investing in top class training camps with experienced guys helping him etc. While picking askren....at 40 years old after a hard career....after serious hip surgery. A guy that was never any good at striking....smaller and out of shape never boxed and basically hes able to tee off on him.

    Pretty sure the fella got up ready to fight on. Ref stopped it a bit early because of the things listed above.
     
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  6. CocoonOfHorror

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    When, outside of professional wrestling, have you seen a knockout where the fighter went sprawling in the direction of the punch? That never happens.

    I find it very hard to believe serious fight fans are this naive. But you seem to be trying your hardest to argue for the implausible. Very weird.
     
  7. Ted Stickles

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    I’ve been watching boxing since I was a kid. I started boxing when I was 8 for quite a few years then stopped and went back when I was 20 and competed for a few more years. I had a great time and a nice amateur career. I’ve always loved the sport and looked up to and admired too many fighters to mention.
    This past weekend is the first time I honestly questioned whether I want to continue to even watch boxing anymore. It was an embarrassment and a scam imo that was pulled over on the fans and casuals. I already have Netflix so I didn’t hurt me at all, but I felt bad for those who shelled out money and bought tickets. The sad thing was the undercard was pretty decent , but the main draw was such an apparent scam that it made me feel embarrassed for the sport I love. Maybe I’m overthinking things but was curious how some of you guys were feeling about it?
     
  8. Bubba

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    Nope, just thought Mike would of had to take a dive.
    You know, to show us boxing fans what a great fighter Jake Paul is.
    Glad I was wrong.
     
  9. bbjc

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    When you say that never happens. You mean it rarely happens when watching two high level professional fighters fight.

    Was pretty clear to see ben askran couldnt box to save his life. We seen quite a few things from him you very rarely see from professional boxers.

    Surely your thinking. One guys probably on steroids. Training in no expenses spared training camps with experienced guys....putting in the work. Prime age with decent athletic attributes.

    Fighting say a guy thats 40 thats just had serious hip surgery after a hard career. Hes never been able to strike. Never boxed. Hes smaller.

    The other guys 58 years old never fought in twenty years nearly died 3 months ago with years of serious injury behind him.

    Not really a massive surprise hes getting success against them tbh.

    Did he forget to script the fury fight?
     
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  10. CocoonOfHorror

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    Askren's boxing skills have nothing to do with it. That is not how people are knocked out. The body is always resisting the punch before consciousness is lost, ergo, you never see guys instantly sprawl out in the direction of the punch. Your body does not instantly go limp on impact of the punch. If you get knocked back, you are still standing, staggering, resisting for at least a couple moments, and then most likely falling on your face. The sprawl was a huge tell.

    I don't think you are being objective. You are just selling the sham.
     
  11. bbjc

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    How old are you bud?

    Your arguments pretty moot basically because askren was never knocked out. He got knocked over by a punch....then got straight back up before the ref stopped it.

    Not sure if you,ve maybe not watched it recently but that fella was never knocked out. I only know that because i just watched the askren fight after you mentioned it tbf.
     
  12. CocoonOfHorror

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    If that wasn't supposed to be him losing consciousness, then it looks even faker. You can at least admit it looks extremely weird, right, even if you insist it was real?
     
  13. bbjc

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    Honestly not really getting any kind of agreement from me tbh. Paul caught him with a shot because hes able to pretty much tee off on hand picked opponent.

    Caught him with a punch and put him over. The fella got right back up. Askren was a total boxing novice. His stance. Foot placement and guard we,re different to what we see from real professional boxers mainly because hes probably spent a career being trained another way.

    Your saying we,ve never seen a boxer being hit and falling backwards? The only reason it wouldnt be common is because their decent level boxers that would have seen that long looping punch coming early unlike the fella who was in a foreign stance....holding his hands up like the fighters did in the 1930,s snoop dog said.

    We seen quite a few things from him....that we dont usually see from professional boxers.
     
  14. CocoonOfHorror

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    Askren's boxing experience has nothing to do with my point. I don't know why you keep bringing it up. When you get knocked down, the number one sign is your knees buckle. Then you can fall in any direction. But there is always a moment of resistance-- you never instantly go sprawling. You may fall backwards, but not insta-sprawl. Askren's knees don't buckle, he just sprawls instantly. That is very fake looking. You can't admit it looked weird at all, can you? All you can do is say no no no. That is strange.
     
  15. bbjc

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    Going to have to disagree on it i m afraid. Your argument seems to be these fights are fixed. Even tho hes fighting handpicked opponents that are pretty much either hopeless at boxing or far too old and injured plus he forgot to tell tommy fury the script.

    Its not like hes beating up canelo. Hes just beating a 58 year old who,s not fought in twenty years....smoked copious amounts of weed.....massive injuries over his career suffering with sciataca a current knee injury and almost died 3 months ago.

    Jake pauls not a good fighter....but its not really like hes shocking the world beating these guys.