Boxing Myths That Need to Die ASAP

That Hamed was beaten up & schooled by Barrera, when in reality it was a competitive fight that Barrera won clearly, but not easily.

 

If Buster Douglas could beat the 24 year old Tyson...sorry, I just can't see the 1980 Holmes doing anything besides frustrating the hell out of Mike on his best day. Mike wouldn't make 10 imo.

 

Tyson was the most skilled heavyweight of all time under the watchful eye of Rooney and Larry would have given the Tyson that beat Spinks a far better fight than Douglas, Buster doesn`t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as prime Tyson and Holmes, Tucker proved that.

 

That Hatton wasn`t a very good fighter simply because he got dominated by the two greatest fighters of his generation.

 

Completely agree. Watched all hattons career...was a great fighter.

Think he got to america just a bit too late...the opposition being harder didnt help but he was also starting to slide inbetween fights etc.

All about levels tho. Floyd and pacman we,re on a different level but no real shame in that. Thought he actually hurt pacman at one point in that fight...would need to watch it back...dont think many noticed it at the time.

 

Think i might have been dreaming with that last post....just watched it back with the usa commentators dont think hatton did hurt him. Think it was the uk commentators that thought he might have.

Good fighter hatton...thought he put up a decent showing against floyd comparing a lot of floyds other fights when the opponents we,re beat after about the 2nd round.

Think hatton would have had a few fifty fiftys with the tier below mayweather and pacman at his best. Just not gonna get far with them two tho tbh. Pacman too dangerous a guy for a come forward fighter.

 

Can I just confirm:

Mike Tyson's prime:
November 1986 - November 1989
(Age 20-23)

Is that correct?

 

Perhaps you and I saw 2 different fights. MAB knew he was so far up he slammed princesses head into the turnbuckle knowing how simple it was. It was, can we say, a TAKE THAT ***** moment.

 

Actually that MAB hamed was close. It was an exhibition in reality

 

It might have started and ended a little earlier than that.

 

No his prime ended after he sacked Rooney.

 

Don`t think Hamed would agree with that.

 

“Power is the last thing to go”

It’s not uncommon for see fighters lose power and ability to hurt opponents once they lose some speed (the whole speed x mass= force thing).

George Foreman, for example, was rarely knocking out or dropping guys in the last few years of his career. His hands were still heavy, but due to his decline in speed, his power suffered and he couldn’t hurt his opponents like usual. 5 of his last 6 bouts when the full 12, and I don’t remember him dropping or really burning any of those 5 opponents. The one exception was Michael Moorer, who was chinny at HW, and actually took more heavy shots throughout the course of the fight than people remember.

The last thing to go is ring intelligence, if that ever goes away. As far as physical tools, it varies depending on the fighter. Some guys lose their punch resistance early on. Some fighters (Foreman, James Toney, Muhammad Ali) still have it when they’ve lost so many other physical tools.

 

That Inoue has good case for being ahead of Usyk, Crawford, or Beterbiev (I said it) on a pfp list because he won a laundry list of trinkets.

 

"Weight bullies" exit in that some guys are able to dehydrate/rehydrate way more than others. But what is that really? Just a genetic advantage. Do we also have strength bullies or speed bullies?

There is a little bit to the fact that different people with more DNA from certain regions tend to have certain physical characteristics. Dudes with a lot of DNA from Scandinavia tend to be tall, for example. And there's a little bit to the fact that certain styles may be more common in certain geographic areas. Generalities are dumb, of course. There are crude black fighters and slick mexican fighters.