Why does Wilder dislike Mike Tyson? Says Tyson never beat anyone

Wouldn’t compare Tyson to Glass Jaw Roy. Tyson fought just about everyone except Bowe and happened to lose. Glass Jaw Roy didn’t even attempt it he just hid behind pitiful excuses.

 

Tyson defeated Ruddock twice, Bruno twice, Tucker, Biggs, Buster Mathis Jr., Berbick, Holmes, Spinks and some other good fighters, and whoever says that Tyson's resume is bad has no idea about anything and that is Wilder.

 

1-2 vs Bowe isn't a shame. Bowe is one of the most skilled big men in history and he was a bad stylistic match up for Holyfield.

0-2 vs Lewis? He was 37 and past it. This wasn't prime Holyfield.

Holyfield's win over Bowe (2nd fight), Mercer, Foreman (older but more dangerous than guys like Berbick, Williams, Tubbs etc.), Dokes, Douglas (who beat Tyson), Moorer (2nd fight) is a very strong resume. Holyfield consistently fought better competition than Tyson or Lewis so of course he was going to have more losses.

I don't count guys losing in their 50's against them. Come on. Holyfield should have retired in 2000 and Tyson in 2002. And they were both past it by then.

 

Mike said in an interview back in 2017 or 2018 that Wilder never beat anybody good and couldn’t be compared to him at all. Wilder has been a hater ever since.

 

A lot of the "bums" from that era that Mike beat are probably better than Wilder.

The talent pool was way bigger in the 80s.

 

You're arguably thr best poster on this forum, at least among the best

I couldn't agree more with the above, spot on!

 

Funny that, because I think several people who Tyson beat (Smith, Ruddock, Holmes, Spinks, Tucker, off the top of my head) would beat Wilder. Guess that makes Wilder a nobody.

Sure, Tyson's résumé isn't incredible for a HW ATG, but neither are Holmes' or Wlad's. They're all still miles ahead of Wilder's.

 

Thanks for the nice words mate appreciate it.

 

Tysons 1987 run alone beats wilders whole career. Still to this day think tysons run is one of the most impressive things in the whole of boxing. If not the most impressive.

A 19 year old kid ran through the whole heavyweight division in about 2 years. He was beating good names every month sometimes less than a month apart. He fought and beat up james tillis and mitch green 17 days apart. Then goes on to batter Frazier, ribalta, ratliff and berbick in 4 months. He fought someone before frazier just 14 days earlier.

Then he hits 1987 and pretty much batters 6 or 7 big names in a single year.

From pinklon thomas to michael spinks......the opponents record added together was 180 wins between them and 4 losses in an era where they actually fought each other. He done it in a single year at 20 years old. People can say what they will....but when talking about the most impressive things in boxing. Mike tysons 1987-1989 run has to be up there if its not the single most impressive run considering he was a 20 year old running through it in about 2 years.

I think people totally underestimate that era as well. Massive depth to the division Highly skilled the thing thats skewed peoples opinion is tyson decimated them all and they all fought each other a lot of the time on short notice with a much bigger pool of good heavyweights making their records look a lot worse than they actually we,re.

Tyson beat a guy at 18 that had actually just beat buster douglas. 20 days before that he beat someone else up then twenty three days after that he beat someone else up. Then battered someone 24 days after that before taking on james tillis and mitch green 17 days apart.

Wilder took 5 years to fight audley harrison. And multiple years to fight anyone with a pulse.

 

Deontay Wilders issue with Mike Tyson stems back from a 2017 interview in which Mike Tyson was asked who is the best heavyweight in the world. Mike Tyson responded with Antony Joshua. They asked Mike Tyson about Wilder and he said something to the effect "Undefeated doesn't mean anything if you dont fight the best"


Since then Wilder has called Tyson a jealous hater

 

very well written. To be honest, I don't know who or what can be compared to what you're writing about, so it's probably easiest to explain it as a bad period, but who today remembers those years? Watching these fights, I have no idea why people think so. Let's remember that Tyson fought fighters like Ferguson, Ribalta, Tillis, Biggs long before they were old, broken or had sparring partner syndrome.

 

This is it,this is why.
Tyson said he dont rate him so Wilder doesnt lime him.
Somewhat like Lennox and AJ.

 

People saying Tyson folded like a deck chair when he was under pressure maybe haven't watched him fight enough.
I remember watching him fight Berbick as a kid and berbick was aggressive and catching him with punches in the 1st round that I've seen some of the modern clumsy behemoths crumble from, he stayed calm and knocked berbick out. Ruddock who was a power puncher caught him numerous times and Tyson fought through and beat him twice. Tysons chin was solid, in fact I'd say he had a great chin. Things really went down hill for Tyson post prison where he was rushed back to the title and wasn't battle tested. I think his team handled his return all wrong, he should have had 5-6 fights against increasingly difficult opponents before fighting for the title

 

Wilder says this because he grew up a big Tyson fan and saw Tyson saying something along the lines of "My 10 year old son could beat the fighters Wilder beat." In response, Wilder has been dissing him since. In Wilder's mind, Americans (especially black Americans) should support each other. He didn't like the fact that Tyson put that out there for the world to see. Wilder did the same thing to Floyd when he criticized him publicly. Wilder is basically saying "If you don't respect me why should I respect you?".

 

The link isn't loading. But I don't think I even care to know Wilder's "logic" behind is discrediting of Tyson's resume.

We talking about Wilder here. He fought a guy who had pockets on his shorts......His biggest win was against Ortiz.....a man who's never won a world title. A fight he should have lost had the ref did his job in the 9th round (in the first fight) as Wilder was out of it for 45 seconds, but not even a standing 8 count was given.