Does Anyone Think Lewis Could Have Beaten Bowe,In 1992 ?

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    No but I would have loved to have seen him try. Too bad Bowe didn't want to give Lewis the oppurtunity.
     
  2. Overhand94

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    I know that Lewis was the WBC mandatory challenger, but you were talking like there was a deal that Bowe backed out of at the last minute. Maybe I misunderstood you.

    Concerning the winner take all offer, there's a discrepancy between who made it first.
    I don't think it was seen as a serious proposition for both sides.

    About the 3 million, Lewis was willing to accept it after he flatly rejected it (calling it " slap in the face money "). For that matter, Bowe pointed that contradiction right on live TV before Lennox (during the BBC awards of 1992).

    The problem with Maloney is that him, King and Suleiman worked in the shadows to have Bowe stripped of his title and then pit Lewis against Tucker (a King fighter), using Lewis mandatory position as a leverage.
    The 3 million would have been Lewis best purse to date, but Lewis' camp knew that Don King would have put up more money in a attempt to regain the title.
     
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  3. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You're greatly over-complicating this.

    Newman and Bowe had agreed with the WBC to face the winner of Lewis/Ruddock (the winner becoming their Mandatory Challenger). Lewis beat Ruddock and became the WBC's Mandatory Challenger. Newman and Bowe reneged on their previous agreement and were forced to vacate the belt because they didn't want to fight Lewis. It really is that simple.

    King had nothing to do with Bowe binning the WBC belt.
     
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  4. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    It's not just that Bowe refused to face Lewis (which is partly false because his camp made offers).
    Newman had a feud with the WBC (mostly because of their sanctionning fees) and responded by having Bowe thrashing the belt.
     
  5. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bogus offers aren't offers.

    It's amazing how many excuses need to be made for Bowe trashing the belt rather than fighting Lewis.

    It was a duck. Plain and simple.
     
  6. sauhund II

    sauhund II Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You should stick to no posting.....

    Could not stop Oldiefield in two tries who was so washed up that right afterwards he went life and death with Ruiz who was not only once but twice beat by former Middleweights...........

    Could not stop Trial horse Mercer who never ever won a meaningful fight.

    Could not stop a Nobody with a Mohawk

    Could not stop the Ghost oif Tucker

    Could not stop One trick Pony "Buffet Champ " Tua

    Was stopped by two fringe contenders, one with a glass chin , the other living in a crackhouse, by one One ONE punch...........the only Heavyweight Champion in History who was laid out like that.

    But Bowe goes out in two.................who has one razor close loss to a ATG on his record ......who was never ever counted out even when totally shot and washed up beyond believe,

    Stick to synchronized female swimming.
     
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  7. Overhand94

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    I'm also baffled about how some people never consider Lewis as part of the problem even though he was not easy to negotiate with.
     
  8. dinovelvet

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    Back then the WBC was Don King and Don King was the WBC. They were the same package.

    Don King knew Newman was an outsider and didn't know how to deal with the underhanded tactics of boxing promotion. They cheated him , blackmailed him and low balled him into giving up the belt.

    Don King/ WBC did the same to Evander Holyfield in 1991.

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  9. dinovelvet

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    Making demands to compromise the fight and then come back and say 'its too late' was all part of their plan.

    At one point in negations Lewis and Maloney wanted to be paid more than the $10M King was offering them to fight Tony Tucker. Thats $7M more than what Bowe got paid when he challenged Holyfield.

    At the end of the day , thats what Lewis did. Why fight and lose to Bowe for less when he can win a title against a shot Tucker for more.

    Lewis was an experience ducker. He skillfully navigated out of fights all throughout his career. Thats why he was stripped of every belt he ever won and fought all his best opponents when they were years out of date
     
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  10. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not easy to negotiate with because his team wouldn't accept less than 10% of the purse?

    If your baffled by that, then I don't know what to tell you.
     
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  12. Overhand94

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    I'm baffled about how according to his fans he was ducked by everyone but yet had no problem with him when he relinquished his belts.
    And it was not " less than 10% " but several offers of at least 15%.
     
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  13. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Only $9M was on offer from a purse of $12.1M

    Where's the evidence for $10M? Where's the evidence for the Lewis team demanding more than $10M?
     
  14. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Close enough. Bowe challenged Holyfield for $3M

    Maloney was blackmailing team Bowe with the offer they got from King to fight Tony Tucker for 10 million.

    Maloney is on record saying they wouldn't fight Bowe for less than 9 million.



     
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