What Allowed Danny Lopez So Much More Sucess Against Olivares Than Chacon Had?

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  1. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even though Chacon dominated Little Red himself when they fought? ABC logic, yes, but I'm curious as to what Lopez possessed that allowed him to get off the deck and stop Olivares where as Chacon was dominated and stopped twice himself. Just a styles thing? Physical size?

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  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    Good god almighty I keep posting stuff to the wrong forum. Move to Classic when you get the chance, please.
     
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  3. Flo_Raiden

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    It's a mix of styles and also Olivares being a bit past it by the time he got to Lopez. Olivares had already beaten Chacon twice but leading up to the Lopez fight he was already war torn from all his fights from Chucho, Herrera, Arguello, Kotey, etc. Chacon was the more talented fighter than Lopez but was always very inconsistent due to his out of the ring activities and lacked dedication, much like Olivares later in his career. Lopez, as limited as he was, possessed very dangerous punching power alongside heart and grit as well as having a bit of a size advantage at 126. Lopez's size, power, and Olivares being washed up certainly played a factor in Lopez's success over Olivares.
     
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  4. Russell

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    What do you think happens if the Olivares that blew out Chacon in two rounds fought Lopez? Same result with Little Red winning, or different?

    Would you say Danny's conditioning and dedication to the sport were levels above the likes of Ruben and Chacon? He seemed to get the most out of what he had where as I don't know if I could say the same for Ruben.
     
  5. Flo_Raiden

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    I think it would be the same results. Lopez would have still given Olivares problems at that stage of his career due to the same advantage he had when they fought. Olivares was still a good fighter at FW but and not the same monster as he was at BW. He had Chacon's number at FW but didn't seem to have that much more success at that weight in terms of great wins. Although it would have been interesting to see how the Olivares that fought Arguello and was winning on points prior to getting stopped would have done against Little Red.
     
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  6. Russell

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    What do you make of a pretty far gone Olivares blasting out Ramirez in a few rounds? That's like my number one white whale of personal boxing bouts I need to see before I die... Olivares seemed to have a thing for putting young bucks in their place, if he wasn't getting blasted out himself that is!
     
  7. Flo_Raiden

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    A very impressive win especially when you consider that Ramirez was a very tough fighter who was never stopped in any of his other losses. Although it needs to be pointed out that Ramirez was 19 years old who had never fought any quality opponents prior and Olivares was his first world class opponent he faced who also happened to still carry his power well. I would like to see footage of that fight if it's available.
     
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  8. Mark Anthony

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    Lopez was a dreadful boxer.
     
  9. Russell

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    Don't think anyone ever mistook him for one. Kind of besides the point actually.