the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Shoji Oguma v Antonio Avelar (flyweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Oguma
Round 2: 10-10 Even
Round 3: 10-9 Oguma
Round 4: 10-9 Avelar
Round 5: 10-9 Avelar
Round 6: 10-9 Avelar
Round 7: Avelar drops Oguma for the count

Total through 6 completed rounds: 58-57 Avelar (actual scores: all 3 officials had it 58-56 for Avelar)

Oguma can be a bit frustrating to watch because I saw him in the first Chan Hee fight as a body-punching specialist and I've seen him in other fights where he didn't touch the body. I don't get it. He should have been ripping into Avelar but he held back which gave Avelar the chance to regroup and land his bombs. Good while it lasted.

 

Oguma was always going to have a tough time imposing himself physically on a huge flyweight like Avelar. A lot easier to bore in and muscle around guys like Park and even Gonzalez (who was pretty strong himself) than a guy who was big and strong enough to be a bigtime puncher at bantam.

I thought his peak as a fighter was in the late '70s through the first fight with Park. It's just that most of his fights in that period took place against really, really good opponents, so he really has just the one major win. He seemed like he was declining physically in his title defense against Sung-jun Kim, when the bullying side of his game just wasn't there. He was able to bully Park in their two subsequent fights, but I think that was just a favorable matchup for him.

 

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This performance by Medel was incredible.

First time when I watched the ko,I believed Harada when he said that Medel just got a lucky punch,I was wrong..

Observing closely again, Medel already trapped Harada since round 1,using smothering,infighting and clinching techniques to spoil Harada and counter him at close range, without taking much damage.

If Medel wasn't so inconsistent I could see him becoming a champ at some point, considering he also stops champ Walter McGowan in 6(or 9) as well,I wish we have more Medel footages.

 

Would Olivares have stopped Harada?

 

He had a big chance to,as he's crafty and had rockets in his gloves,but you can't underestimate Harada..after that fight he learnt to not carelessly enter the pocket and get punched into oblivion,instead smothering his opponents until the ref breaks it,he also adds more nuance to his outboxing game.

 

He would definitely ko the green,fresh from flyweight Harada,but the one that fought Èder for the first time? Dun' think so.

 

FT, I never knew this fight was out there. I had reviewed and scored their title fight some time back and enjoyed it, but it's always a treat when a fight film pops up that I never knew existed (other than reading about it). To begin, I loved this fight. But you want to know what I don't love? A fight that omits a round that I'm scoring. I'll bet all my neighbors heard me groan when it went from round 3 to 5. As it was, the family was checking in on me when they heard my, "Ohhhhh!" during some of these brilliant exchanges. Medel was such a fantastic counter-puncher off the ropes and Harada started out with his tornado-like rushes that one would realize something fantastic was going to happen here. About the last 30 seconds of the 3rd Medel started to unleash more after Harada took the first 2 rounds and that 6th round was just amazing. Thanks for the heads-up on this fight. Also, if you want to see true brilliance at countering off the ropes, watch Medel against Jesus Pimental. You'll love it.

 

I'm not gonna lie Scar I hate missing rounds that's why I don't watch alot of the really old stuff I have to see a fight in its entirety otherwise i'm not interested.

 

I'm with you on that D. I'll be scoring a fight and then just shelve my scorecard if a round is eliminated. I mean, what's the point? It has to be a good fight also for me to continue just watching.

 

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Thank you so much scar, appreciate it.
In case of missing rounds, it's a pet peeves for scoring I agree,but honestly,as a man who still wants to see how fair the fight's decision is,I still try to score thru the rest of the fight, it's not full to actually make sure it's fair,but it's the only thing left to make sure the fight's fair.
Otherwise, there's the judges scorecards that popped out after the missing rounds,it helps me so much,I know judges can't be as accurate as we thought,but they're the one seeing it atleast,not us.

 

Nice. Scored this one about three years ago for this thread. Here’s my account:

Bobby “Schoolboy” Chacon vs. Danny “Little Red” Lopez, scheduled for 12 rounds at Los Angeles Sports Arena on May 24, 1974.

Lopez is 23-0 (22), stands 5-8 and weighs 123 1/2 pounds at age 21. He is ranked No. 4 by the WBC.

Chacon is 23-1 (21), is 5-5 and weighs 126 at age 22. He’s won four in a row since sustaining his only loss, to Ruben Olivares by stoppage for the NABF featherweight crown. Ranked No. 6, he’s a 10-8 favorite.

The bout draws a crowd of more than 16,000 plus some 2,700 who pay to watch via closed circuit at the nearby Olympic Auditorium. The gate is nearly $250,000. Each fighter is paid $56,000 according to the Los Angeles Times — per an online inflation calculator that’s more than $300,000 in today’s dollars for a non-title fight. That’s how big this fight was. Median family income in the U.S. in 1974 was $11,100 per the Census Bureau. A brand new Cadillac convertible cost $7,800.

This fight should have come with a Surgeon’s General warning — if your doctor has advised you to avoid excitement, do not watch.

My scoring:

Round 1: Chacon 10-9 — It starts as a jabbing contest and surprisingly the shorter Chacon’s is better. By mid-round he’s hitting home with laser-guided right hands and can’t seem to miss with the punch.

Round 2: Lopez 10-9 — Blistering shots traded, Lopez gets through with some hard rights and works over the Schoolboy on the ropes. Danny is cut over the right eye but it doesn’t appear to be serious.

Round 3: Chacon 10-9 — Bobby hurts Danny with a right early and out jabs him most of the round, then pours it on with more rights late in the round.

Round 4: Lopez 10-9 — Danny is relentless, comes on strong and seems to be turning the tide. Looks the stronger man.

Round 5: Chacon 10-9 — Again, Bobby can’t miss with the right hand. And he throws a bunch of them.

Round 6: Even, 10-10 — Lopez rakes Chacon along the ropes but Bobby rallies late. Lopez’s eye cut reopens. Bobby is bleeding from the nose by round’s end.

Round 7: Chacon 10-9 (close) — Both land big rights, Bobby’s body work especially with the left hook edges it on my card.

Round 8: Chacon 10-9 — Danny is starting to look ragged, all those rights taking their toll.

Round 9: Chacon rocks Lopez with a big right that drives him to the ropes, then a series of rights with a good left hook mixed in drops Danny to the canvas. Chacon is all over him and referee John Thomas stops it 48 seconds into the round with Lopez sagging along the ropes after being battered all the way across the ring.

EDIT: I forgot the include the scoring. I used the 10-point must system above but California was using the round system at the time.

I had it 5-2-1. A few rounds each way were close. Official cards: 7-1 and 6-2 (twice) but that doesn’t reflect how competitive this bout was.

This is an action fight all the way. Lived up to its billing. It’s a throwback to the days when up-and-comers and contenders would face off and people would pay to make it worth their while. I think if they’d have fought two or three more times each would win at least once.

Bobby would win the vacant WBC featherweight title in his next fight but lose it to Olivares in his second defense. Lopez would lose two of his next three then reel off seven wins in a row before taking that same WBC championship off David Kotey … and never lose again until Salvador Sanchez comes along.

 

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Masao Ohba SD15 Betulio Gonzalez
Round 1: Betulio 5-4
Round 2: Ohba 5-4
Round 3: Betulio 5-4
Round 4: draw 5-4
Round 5: Ohba 5-4
Round 6: Ohba 5-4
Round 7: Ohba 5-4
Round 8: draw 5-5
Round 9: Ohba 5-4
Round 10: Betulio 5-4
Round 11: Ohba 5-4
Round 12: Ohba 5-4
Round 13: draw 5-5
Round 14: Betulio 5-4
Round 15: Betulio 5-4
Masao Ohba 70-68 Betulio Gonzalez
This fight..was probably how I see Ohba as a hybrid of Kingpetch and post-medel Harada,can outbox good and had a good jab,but Ohba also knew inside game and like Kingpetch,he had the size advantage.
The most important rounds here is round 11-12,those were the deciding swing rounds to pick a winner,you can score whatever for 13-15.

 

Julio Cesar Chavez v Terrence Alli (jr. welterweight title)

I watched this fight today for the first time since seeing it live. Man, what a beautiful fight for clean punching and brisk exchanges. Alli gave it one helluva try, but every round where it looked like he might edge the round, Chavez would do something profound during the round to take it. Chavez finally put Alli down in the 6th and it was stopped following the next exchange by the confused Carlos Padilla. Man, he was the most unassertive referee I have ever seen. But again, brilliant exchanges and I had Chavez on top 50-45 through five completed rounds. As did all three judges.

 

A evening treat for my friends in this thread.

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