Older Fighters That Would Have Beaten Their Conqueror s..?

Pedroza vs McGuigan.
Mosley vs Mayweather Jr.
Hoya vs Mayweather Jr.
Pac vs Mayweather Jr.
Leonard vs Norris and Camacho
Duran vs everyone he faced at Jr. Middleweight
and above with exceptions of Hearns , Hagler ,Leonard and Benitez.
Benitez vs Moore and Hamsho.
Mugabi vs Thomas , Norris and McCellean
Pryor vs Bobby Joe Young
Nelson vs Hernandez and Leija
Of course Louis vs Marciano
and Ali vs Holmes, and Berbick
Hoya vs Pac
Mosley vs Pac
Holmes vs Spinks
Foreman vs Morrison, Holyfield, and Briggs
Liston vs Martin
Robinson vs damn near everyone he lost too!!!!!

 

Wlad would have won against Fury and Joshua.

 

Hopkins/Smith of course.

 

I would doubt that. Holmes was inferior in just about every metric besides his inside game.

 

I just recently watched Evander Holyfield vs Larry Holmes …and it kind of looks like prime Larry would have beaten Evander

 

Chavez vs Tszyu
RJJ vs Johnson
Holmes vs Holyfield
Foreman vs Morrison

 

Dempsey lost 19 out of the 20 rounds he fought vs Tunney I'm not so sure I would make even a prime Dempsey a considerable favourite over Tunney.

 

I don't agree with quite a few of these Flash.

Mosley vs Mayweather = Both in their prime close but I'd give Mayweather the edge.

Pacquiao vs Mayweather = Both in their prime I'd favour Mayweather again.

ODLH vs Mayweather = Both in their prime a very close fight 50/50.

SRL vs Norris = I'd favour Leonard but it's a close fight at 154.

Mugabi vs McClellan/Norris = I wouldn't have Mugabi as a favourite over Norris at 154 or McClellan at 160.

I wouldn't have any of these fights as clear cut wins IMO.

 

i can agree on joshua but fury is a horrible matchup for wlad.

 

There’s a long list of this. It’s like a rite of passage to beat a former great.

Most fighters fight too long.

Sugar Ray Robinson had 1 defeat in his first 120 or so fights. He finished with 19 defeats, losing to guys like Stan Harrington and Memo Ayon.

Sugar Ray Leonard losing to Terry Norris and Hector Camacho. To be fair to Hector, he was smaller as his peak was 130-135 and Leonard was 147. But despite Camacho being an excellent fighter in his prime, Leonard was still better in addition to being bigger.

Muhammad Ali beats Larry Holmes in a good competitive fight in their primes IMO. The Ali of a few years earlier would beat Trevor Berbick.

Prime Roy Jones beats Glen Johnson, Joe Calzaghe, Danny Green, etc..

Julio Cesar Chavez of the late 80s/early 90s beats Kostya Tszyu at 140. I would probably favor him over Oscar De La Hoya as well. More so at 135. Oscar has a better chance at 140 and obviously wins at 147.

Prime Larry Holmes doesn’t lose to Michael Spinks. Spinks is one of the greatest ever….at 175. Holmes is one of the greatest ever at HW. I thought he beat Spinks in the rematch anyway, and would favor prime Holmes over prime Evander Holyfield and of course Oliver McCall.

Prime HW version of Holyfield doesn’t lose to Chris Byrd, John Ruiz, Larry Donald, James Toney, Sultan Ibragimov, Nicolay Valuev, etc…Hell, ancient Holyfield didn’t really lose to Valuev. The judges beat him.

 

How do you think a prime version of Saad does against Qawi?

Saad had been through so many wars in fights and Philly gyms by the time he fought Qawi. He had certainly declined. But Qawi was an excellent fighter, not some mediocre champion.

 

I don’t think he ever beats Fury tbh. Agree with the Joshua pick considering a prime Joshua went life and death with the worst version of Wlad.

 

Qawi is always a terrible match up for Muhammad he would beat him up at any point his career.