Vasiliy Lomachenko Vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. @ Lightweight — Who Wins?

Loma's boxing IQ for me is also questionable I feel like in all 3 of his losses he could've won all 3 fights had he stepped on the gas a bit more. He seems to give rounds away at the worst times and doesn't have the instinct to know when to put the foot on the gas in a competitive fight.

That's the difference between him and Mayweather people can say Mayweather may of lost the 1st Castillo fight. But he also had an injury to his shoulder like Loma did vs Lopez but atleast Mayweather tried to turn it around by standing toe to toe with Castillo in the 11th round.

Loma on the other hand fought Lopez like he was in a sparring session for 6 rounds then let Lopez steal the fight from him in the 12th round.

 

I never contested that Floyd is better in every particular than Haney.

Loma connected on 30% of his power shots against Haney. In what fights did Loma connect on 60% of his power shots?

What I objected to was your assertion that Haney is slick. Haney's height, reach, and jab affected Loma's offense early, not his supposed slickness.

So, no, the point doesn't stand.

 

Good thing powershots weren't Lomas entire arsenal am I right ? He missed a craptop of jabs and if you wanna count punches landed let's look at how many body punches and jabs Haney landed on Loma that get swept under the rug. Serge ain't right, Lomachenkos performance against Haney is overrated. Mayweather doesn't struggle with slick fighters anymore than Lomachenko. Imo the point does still stand, in regards to Floyd winning, because Mayweather just like Haney has all the physical advantages

 

Whether Loma missed a "crap ton" of jabs is immaterial; the question is why he struggled to connect, and it had much more to do with Haney's length, reach, and jab than his supposed slickness.

A point, incidentally, you inadvertently conceded when you claimed Haney's defense is "crap."

Slick fighters are notoriously good defensively. It's one of the singular characteristics of a slick fighter.

Indeed, how many slick fighters do you know who have poor defenses?

Not sure you even know what you're arguing at this point, but here we are.

As for your assertion that Loma's performance against Haney is overrated, I'd like to ask--in what parallel universe? Even those who thought he won believe it was a close, competitive fight and that Loma again struggled at times with an opponent's length and reach.

And I've already said Floyd wins at 135lbs fairly comfortably.

 

Man been retired forever and still lives in so many people heads, at 130 Floyd is at worst the #3 fighter of all time and talk of him not fighting Loma is bull****. Why don’t we have someone post his record at 130 and 135.

 

Lesser fights than Floyd like Teofimo and Haney have beaten him and Loma wants no part of Tank who is Floyd’s boxing son. Honestly Floyd was knocking people out with combinations at this weight so Floyd would murder Loma.

 

Tank fans have some cheek accusing Loma of ducking.

Tank's 30yo and has never shown any inclination to test himself against the very best at or around his weight.

 

Tank has knocked out many world champions, undefeated fighters etc. Loma lost his pen and retired when it was time to fight Tank. Can’t say I blame him though. Why should he leave boxing suffering a devastating knockout. Have some compassion.

 

Stop, Olu.

We both know Tank and his team wanted nothing to do with Loma over the last 4-5 years.

 

What I do know is that early this year when Tank the PPV economics money guy the A side came calling offering Loma a career high pay day he chose to quit. People get brave saying they want to fight Tank but when the fight is offered they have a nervous breakdown. Take Ryan Garcia by way of example. After calling out Tank and Tank accepted he suddenly developed mental health problems and had to take a career break to grow some cojones. To be fair to him he did come back back to face his execution and learned how to quit from body shots like his promoter Oscar. Tank always said they would get round to Loma and when they did Loma quit the fight game.

 

Yes, Tank and his team finally "got around to Loma" once he showed real signs of aging and very clearly had one foot in retirement.

How courageous of Team Tank.

Save the keystrokes, Olu. No one with a functioning brain cell believes the Loma of even a few years ago would have turned down an opportunity to fight Tank (which probably explains why the Ukrainian never received one).

 

Well it’s doubtful your brain cells are functioning based on your incorrect infantile analysis. The problem with some of you is that you allow your hatred of certain opponents to cloud your judgment. The only person lacking courage in this scenario is Loma. He never said anything about retirement until Tank said yes to a fight with him then the realisation set in on him. Funny that. Like I said I am not surprised because the stark reality of facing Tank is different than mouthing off that you want to face him. I wish him the best in his retirement.

 

And what part of my analysis is infantile? The parts you didn't address or the parts you ignored?

How often did Tank and his team make serious overtures/offers to fight prior to Lomachenko's present age/stage of his career??

I'll wait.

I have no issue with Tank. In fact, unlike many on ESB, I actually think he's an exceptional talent. See some of my previous posts on the topic.

What is astounding, however, is the unmitigated gall of Tank sack swingers castigating Loma for ducking.

That really does take the cake. Even for you, Olu.