Oleksandr Oleksandrovych Usyk vs. Tyson Luke Fury II & Serhii Bohachuk vs. Ishmael Davis RBR.

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  1. zelky

    zelky Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fury is fried and tired and probably thinks he was active and on the front foot all night. Even if he watched the fight he probably wouldn't concede the opinion.

    But it was really easy to observe him drain from round 1 to round 6. By the time he got hit properly, he didn't spend a lot of time on the front foot and fought sporadically and with a lot less energy than he did in rounds 1-3.

    Usyk knew Fury would gas and the second half of the fight would be easier, but it took incredible stamina from himself to fight his fight against such a soild lump.
     
  2. Komaster

    Komaster **** All Computers Full Member

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    "**** all computers" is the best thing this big lug has ever said.
     
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  3. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Still raging that we didnt see Bowe V Lewis Full Member

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    Who would you back between him and Whyte ATM?
     
  4. boxberry92

    boxberry92 Active Member Full Member

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    Yup, I agree.

    Usyk is arguably the fight in which AJ should have rolled the dice rather than in the last round with Dubois; instead, like Fury, he tried to outbox the supreme boxer.

    Same with Fury, especially since he's almost overnight become a six-round fight at that elite level now, along with how Usyk continuously winds the pace up as the fight goes on. instead, he tried to out-hustle and old-man him as Hopkins attempted with Calzaghe and simply run out of steam in the later rounds.

    Imagine if Mike Tyson tried to outbox Michael Spinks; it may have been a different outcome. I do feel Chisora laid the blueprint in how to beat him, much like Teofimo did with Lomochenko.

    Personally, I hope Usyk retires now, as he would have to be considered the best of his generation and up there with the greatest of all time; if not, I think he will eventually get sparked out and in brutal fashion, much like Spinks did against Tyson.

    A quick heavyweight with real power will be Usyk's downfall if he carries on, like Moses Itauma or someone who just soaks it up and keeps coming, similar to Chavez with Meldrick Taylor.
     
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  5. KermitTheFrog

    KermitTheFrog The people doing the banning are idiots Full Member

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    An argument could be made that 2024 has been the best year ever for boxing. The joy of seeing Fury beaten twice is unmatched in my eyes. Cracking stuff, merry Christmas to all!
     
  6. Soi Six

    Soi Six daddy, daddy cool, daddy, daddy cool banned Full Member

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    Waste of time talking about Usyk retiring. He won’t.
     
  7. UtterCup

    UtterCup A lover not a fighter Full Member

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    Fury clearly won a round (I think 6) and he was on the front foot throughout most of that round. But Usyk came back stronger in the rounds after that. I kinda agree re Fury draining through the fight, but I don't think he was completely shattered by the end.

    I wonder if Fury feels he wasn't back pedalling because he wasn't trying to back pedal. A bit like how a bad football team playing Barcelona will end up camped outside their own box, even if that's not the intention.

    The same thing maybe explains why it's hard to work out what Fury was trying to do. It didn't seem to be an aggressive start from Fury, and at no point did he seem to go all out.
     
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  8. zelky

    zelky Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't think he was very mentally healthy in the lead up to the fight.

    And same as you have said it was confusing trying to work out what he was doing from round to round. He didn't stick to a solid game plan which might have worked, but it's probably very difficult to do with Usyk bouncing around in your face providing constant pressure.

    He probably didn't have the same confidence in his gas tank as he did a few fights ago. I think we saw the best of him in the Wilder fights, and it's time to cash out. He's not going to find any new spark or mojo at this stage of his career.
     
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  9. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love you though brother.
     
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  10. Faz42

    Faz42 Member Full Member

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    It's just fury hate if you think 3 judges scoring it 116-112 have it right.

    You are saying that AJ won more rounds each fight he had with uysk than fury did tonight despite almost every one agreeing fury gave uysk a closer fight than AJ.

    I've rewatched it and I still contend I've got it dead even so could go with uysk by 1 or 2 or tyson by 1 or 2 depending on what the judges prefer, no way uysk won by 6.

    And that AI result shows exactly why it will never work in real sports.
     
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  11. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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  12. nilrem

    nilrem New Member Full Member

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    I had Fury up by two, then came online to see the consensus is Usyk. Perhaps I need a new sport.
     
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  13. Heisenberg

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    24 rounds boxed and only 1 card for Fury out of 6 judges. Compubox clearly favoured Usyk both fights and the new AI scoring was even more conclusive. No doubt Usyk had Tyson’s number. When you consider the man gave away 4 stone and didn’t leave Fury alone, barely a backward step in two fights. The best of the era conversation is conclusively over.
     
  14. Heisenberg

    Heisenberg @paulmillsfitness Full Member

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    24 rounds boxed and only 1 card for Fury out of 6 judges. Compubox clearly favoured Usyk both fights and the new AI scoring was even more conclusive. No doubt Usyk had Tyson’s number. When you consider the man gave away 4 stone and didn’t leave Fury alone, barely a backward step in two fights. The best of the era conversation is conclusively over.
     
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  15. Philosopher

    Philosopher Active Member Full Member

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    This was what I thought. I've made it to 55 years old without realising I clearly don't understand boxing, and I'm now questioning my opinions on...everything boxing related. Wow. I'm done