Usyk in the 70s.

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  1. NewChallenger

    NewChallenger Member Full Member

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    I don't see Bonevana,Lyle,Quarry or any of them winning. It will come down to the 4.

    Which Foreman are we talking about? Are we talking about Post Ali foreman who was trying to be a conservative boxer puncher? or Pure Slugger Foreman that would cut off the ring and throw everything he had?

    Usyk is not beating Slugger Foreman. Ali didn't "Rope-a-Dope" because it was a strategy, it is becuase he realized he coudln't run away. If Ali can't,Usyk can't. And Usyk is not taking an 8 round body pounding before George gasses. The question is if Usyk can complain to the referee about a low blow to get some time to rest or if George kills him first. - KO in 3

    Frazier's only loss is to the big guy. Usyk Doesn't have the power to KO him I don't think, even though Bonevana knocked him down twice. Frazier gets inside and pounds away. It either goes to the cards where joe edges it, or Joe knocks him out in the late rounds.

    Norton I would say loses. I think Norton was a pretty overrated fighter to be honest.

    Ali on the other hand is tricky. 70s Ali , Usyk beats I think because he wasnt a technically good fighter. He kept his fast hands but he lost his legs. Ali in the 60s smokes Usyk. Did Cooper knock Ali down? yeah.....But Ali got right back up and walked to his corner, so he wasn't completly done. He fought Sonny Liston blind for a round or 2. Usyk just doesn't touch him unfortunatly. Ali by UD
     
  2. Barbary Ape

    Barbary Ape New Member Full Member

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    Never realised he was that tall.
     
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  3. PolishAssasin

    PolishAssasin Member Full Member

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    Usyk wouldn't use rope a dope because he wouldn't be able to withstand all of Foreman's punches
     
  4. themaster458

    themaster458 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Usyk dominates I'd favor him vs every fighter in the 70s
     
  5. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Ali had the same reach as Usyk has.
     
  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He would either be the best, or among the best
    The true greats can hang in any era

    If all the great heavies could fight, nobody retires undefeated, but usyk would do extremely well.in any era
     
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  7. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Mollywhopper Full Member

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    Frazier lost to Ali who was the same size as Usyk and didn`t have more power than Usyk either.
     
  8. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    Sorry but he would've beat Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Holmes, Norton, Young, Quarry, and Bonavena...No issues against those guys. Usyk's movement, speed, accuracy and southpaw stance would bewilder these guys...
     
  9. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    He'd beat Foreman quite easily I think, but struggle with Frazier's pressure style. Ali is a toss up; I'd go with Usyk as Ali was beatable in that timeframe and his legs weren't quite up to scratch anymore. Norton might give him some trouble. The rest he beats, including the one dimensional Holmes.

    BTW, this is assuming a prime Usyk, not the ring worn version we've currently got.
     
  10. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When you say Usyk in the 70s does that mean he is simply inserted into the 70s?

    or Does it mean that he has the same conditions with training and nutrition in the 70s? Cause then obviously hes not weighing in at 228 in the 70s

    As far as how he would do in the 70s if he was just inserted in he loses to FOTC Joe Fraizer (Bad style for Usyk imo) but beats the rest.
     
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  11. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Absolute top along the remaining fabulous five.
     
  12. tragedy

    tragedy Active Member Full Member

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    Worse. Only because Usyk always did worse against smaller cruiserweights and heavyweights and Shawn Porter and Artur Beterbiev were his toughest amateur fights. Somebody like prime Smokin Joe Frazier is on a whole other level than Derek Chisora who he struggled with. Someone like Ken Norton is on a whole other level than Mairis Briedis who he went life and death with.
     
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  13. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Good enough to beat all the top guys, but some stylistic matchups are interesting. Pure boxers like Usyk tend to look bad against other pure boxers. A matchup vs a prime Holmes would probably be his biggest challenge as both are just hell to pin down and Larry had a quick right hand.
     
  14. CroBox29

    CroBox29 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He beats them all except maybe Muhammad Ali...
     
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  15. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh Lord!!!!
     
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